New Posts For Thread: Grey Dawning, Gold Cup and Dan Skeltonhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31893783/grey-dawning-gold-cup-and-dan-skeltonThere are not many good things that come with getting older but acquired knowledge is one of them, after nearly forty five years of watching racing you get to notice the odd thing or two and yesterday's Cotswold Chase was one of those moments. In my..https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31893783/grey-dawning-gold-cup-and-dan-skelton?post_id=565271711#565271711..Thu, 12 Mar 2026 13:21:23 -0500G/L with it.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31893783/grey-dawning-gold-cup-and-dan-skelton?post_id=565222579#565222579G/L with it.Sun, 08 Feb 2026 08:30:16 -0600roughly 4 -5 weeks till the festival and gold cup and still 5 or 6/1 the field ,an open gold cup , some unproven at the trip and question marks with last years winner and gallopi de champs seems not quite the force he was .already on heart wood athttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31893783/grey-dawning-gold-cup-and-dan-skelton?post_id=565222565#565222565roughly 4 -5 weeks till the festival and gold cup and still 5 or 6/1 the field ,an open gold cup , some unproven at the trip and question marks with last years winner and gallopi de champs seems not quite the force he was .already on heart wood atSun, 08 Feb 2026 08:14:54 -0600Iswearit, in relation to your posts, firstly I dont agree with you on Best Mate and particularly his Florida Pearl defeat, that for me was fair and a good indication of his best ability, it should be remembered that when winning his first gold cup Cohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31893783/grey-dawning-gold-cup-and-dan-skelton?post_id=565209271#565209271Iswearit, in relation to your posts, firstly I dont agree with you on Best Mate and particularly his Florida Pearl defeat, that for me was fair and a good indication of his best ability, it should be remembered that when winning his first gold cup CoFri, 30 Jan 2026 05:18:57 -0600I look at ratings the same way.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31893783/grey-dawning-gold-cup-and-dan-skelton?post_id=565208415#565208415I look at ratings the same way.Thu, 29 Jan 2026 15:31:10 -0600Whilst I'm pleased to hear Imperial Commander get a mention (I feel that he never received enough credit for his GC win), I'd argue that both his and Long Run's Cheltenham Gold Cup wins might not be quite as good as the ratings suggest. Imperial alwahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31893783/grey-dawning-gold-cup-and-dan-skelton?post_id=565208357#565208357Whilst I'm pleased to hear Imperial Commander get a mention (I feel that he never received enough credit for his GC win), I'd argue that both his and Long Run's Cheltenham Gold Cup wins might not be quite as good as the ratings suggest. Imperial alwaThu, 29 Jan 2026 14:24:03 -0600The problem with Best Mate (and indeed Altior, many years later) was that he couldn't be rated higher due to the relatively sub-par competition he encountered. He wasn't generally a horse that would win by huge distances, so I'd say he was possibly whttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31893783/grey-dawning-gold-cup-and-dan-skelton?post_id=565208335#565208335The problem with Best Mate (and indeed Altior, many years later) was that he couldn't be rated higher due to the relatively sub-par competition he encountered. He wasn't generally a horse that would win by huge distances, so I'd say he was possibly wThu, 29 Jan 2026 14:05:40 -0600Very interesting reading, ladsWhat this forum should all be about, discussion backed up with facts and opinionshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31893783/grey-dawning-gold-cup-and-dan-skelton?post_id=565208325#565208325Very interesting reading, ladsWhat this forum should all be about, discussion backed up with facts and opinionsThu, 29 Jan 2026 13:53:46 -0600All I can say in closing is that I was surprised myself with the ratings of them both and pretty much everyone would be in your camp as to who was the better, been a blast, have a good nighthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31893783/grey-dawning-gold-cup-and-dan-skelton?post_id=565208321#565208321All I can say in closing is that I was surprised myself with the ratings of them both and pretty much everyone would be in your camp as to who was the better, been a blast, have a good nightThu, 29 Jan 2026 13:50:01 -0600Last point on this, but the way ratings work is that once a horse achieves a high rating (eg MM) then his future opponents are rated around his rating as that becomes the benchmark. Personally I don't feel like we can directly compare how good horseshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31893783/grey-dawning-gold-cup-and-dan-skelton?post_id=565208317#565208317Last point on this, but the way ratings work is that once a horse achieves a high rating (eg MM) then his future opponents are rated around his rating as that becomes the benchmark. Personally I don't feel like we can directly compare how good horsesThu, 29 Jan 2026 13:46:59 -0600