New Posts For Thread: WHY 'given the office'https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31881291/why-given-the-officeSome commentators have a remarkable memory for colours and silks but wtf do they say a horse has been given the office? Has a horse ever had an office? Shergar? Mill Reef? Frankel?Should be fined for abuse of our language along with 'back in the dAs punchestown says, in the van means up the front, from vanguard.You sometimes here the humorous inverse, in the guard's van, meaning at the back, because the guard's van is (or was) at the back of a train.The catbird seat made its way across the Athttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31881291/why-given-the-office?post_id=564903579#564903579As punchestown says, in the van means up the front, from vanguard.You sometimes here the humorous inverse, in the guard's van, meaning at the back, because the guard's van is (or was) at the back of a train.The catbird seat made its way across the AtWed, 06 Aug 2025 22:02:57 -0500I know what it is meant to mean - but can't understand the derivation! I think the commentator is saying the jock is now riding the finish, urging maximally but i don't see anything 'secretive' or 'private' about it!! Or what a 'deputy' or 'ice creamhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31881291/why-given-the-office?post_id=564903513#564903513I know what it is meant to mean - but can't understand the derivation! I think the commentator is saying the jock is now riding the finish, urging maximally but i don't see anything 'secretive' or 'private' about it!! Or what a 'deputy' or 'ice creamWed, 06 Aug 2025 20:27:51 -0500In the van is short for vanguard which they say when a horse is up the front"a group of people leading the way in new developments or ideas",think it has an army meaning about forward troops.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31881291/why-given-the-office?post_id=564903253#564903253In the van is short for vanguard which they say when a horse is up the front"a group of people leading the way in new developments or ideas",think it has an army meaning about forward troops.Wed, 06 Aug 2025 15:54:51 -0500They are ten a penny.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31881291/why-given-the-office?post_id=564903197#564903197They are ten a penny.Wed, 06 Aug 2025 15:11:51 -0500Why Idioms?Interesting topic. Culturally diverse.Old as time cuz.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31881291/why-given-the-office?post_id=564903127#564903127Why Idioms?Interesting topic. Culturally diverse.Old as time cuz.Wed, 06 Aug 2025 14:49:27 -0500in the catbird seathttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31881291/why-given-the-office?post_id=564903063#564903063in the catbird seatWed, 06 Aug 2025 14:32:56 -0500Ice creamhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31881291/why-given-the-office?post_id=564902973#564902973Ice creamWed, 06 Aug 2025 13:42:09 -0500In the van. Transit, presumably.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31881291/why-given-the-office?post_id=564902935#564902935In the van. Transit, presumably.Wed, 06 Aug 2025 13:26:43 -0500They also saw a horse has been given a peachhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31881291/why-given-the-office?post_id=564902927#564902927They also saw a horse has been given a peachWed, 06 Aug 2025 13:23:33 -0500horses respond to the jockey's actions, they don't know if they are off or not on the day until.......give (one) the officeobsolete slang To give one secret, private, or insider information or news.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31881291/why-given-the-office?post_id=564902795#564902795horses respond to the jockey's actions, they don't know if they are off or not on the day until.......give (one) the officeobsolete slang To give one secret, private, or insider information or news.Wed, 06 Aug 2025 12:36:32 -0500