New Posts For Thread: Aidan O'Brien & Ryan Moorehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875999/aidan-obrien-ryan-mooreBest Trainer/jockey combination since Vincent & Lester. Get in there!Frankel progeny are more likely to stay too far rather than not far enough. This could be the result of the mares he was sent but his father, Galileo is also a strong influence for stamina and Frankel's contemporary Nathaniel, another Galileo is nowhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875999/aidan-obrien-ryan-moore?post_id=564776119#564776119Frankel progeny are more likely to stay too far rather than not far enough. This could be the result of the mares he was sent but his father, Galileo is also a strong influence for stamina and Frankel's contemporary Nathaniel, another Galileo is nowSun, 08 Jun 2025 06:49:19 -0500Uptheirons,Yes, but not sure i see the point in respect of Frankel staying 12f and Juddmonte were owned by KA anywayhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875999/aidan-obrien-ryan-moore?post_id=564776049#564776049Uptheirons,Yes, but not sure i see the point in respect of Frankel staying 12f and Juddmonte were owned by KA anywaySun, 08 Jun 2025 05:47:38 -0500Impossible to say what O'brien would've done if he had Frankel.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875999/aidan-obrien-ryan-moore?post_id=564776043#564776043Impossible to say what O'brien would've done if he had Frankel.Sun, 08 Jun 2025 05:45:26 -0500But,Coolmore are a breeding operation and Cecil wasn't,AIShttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875999/aidan-obrien-ryan-moore?post_id=564776039#564776039But,Coolmore are a breeding operation and Cecil wasn't,AISSun, 08 Jun 2025 05:40:19 -0500I have no doubts whatsoever Frankel would have stayed 12f, albeit as a 4 year old. Watch his York race, TQ took furlongs to pull him up. Henry never trained him to be a Derby horse anyway, he was still far too headstrong, the SJP showed that. Henry whttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875999/aidan-obrien-ryan-moore?post_id=564776011#564776011I have no doubts whatsoever Frankel would have stayed 12f, albeit as a 4 year old. Watch his York race, TQ took furlongs to pull him up. Henry never trained him to be a Derby horse anyway, he was still far too headstrong, the SJP showed that. Henry wSun, 08 Jun 2025 05:24:19 -0500Frankel was going away from the french horse in the Champion and would likely have stayed 12F(especislly on decent ground).https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875999/aidan-obrien-ryan-moore?post_id=564775997#564775997Frankel was going away from the french horse in the Champion and would likely have stayed 12F(especislly on decent ground).Sun, 08 Jun 2025 05:06:56 -0500One thing is certain,you wouldn't want to play cards with themhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875999/aidan-obrien-ryan-moore?post_id=564775989#564775989One thing is certain,you wouldn't want to play cards with themSun, 08 Jun 2025 04:46:55 -0500elisjohn you must have watched a different champion stakes to me - frankel was going away at the end in soft groundone does wonder what coolmore are up to. delacroix (by dubawi) was never put in the race - same for the lion (by sea the stars). then thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875999/aidan-obrien-ryan-moore?post_id=564775987#564775987elisjohn you must have watched a different champion stakes to me - frankel was going away at the end in soft groundone does wonder what coolmore are up to. delacroix (by dubawi) was never put in the race - same for the lion (by sea the stars). then tSun, 08 Jun 2025 04:41:49 -0500ps i still rate Dancing brave best horse ive ever seenhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875999/aidan-obrien-ryan-moore?post_id=564775909#564775909ps i still rate Dancing brave best horse ive ever seenSun, 08 Jun 2025 03:23:10 -0500imho, im not sure if wed have heard of Frankel if he was trained by obrien, let alone win the derby imo wouldnt have won the derby anyway the race over 10f at ascot proved that to me v cirrushttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875999/aidan-obrien-ryan-moore?post_id=564775907#564775907imho, im not sure if wed have heard of Frankel if he was trained by obrien, let alone win the derby imo wouldnt have won the derby anyway the race over 10f at ascot proved that to me v cirrusSun, 08 Jun 2025 03:22:17 -0500