New Posts For Thread: have we just seen the arc winnerhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875529/have-we-just-seen-the-arc-winnerestrangeYes can be the experience rather than the going. I would think most trainers will be hoping their horse doesn't need mud. Safe ground OK. I may be wrong but maybe you don't look at a horses build ( Bull thought narrow lighter framed types often prhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875529/have-we-just-seen-the-arc-winner?post_id=564763341#564763341Yes can be the experience rather than the going. I would think most trainers will be hoping their horse doesn't need mud. Safe ground OK. I may be wrong but maybe you don't look at a horses build ( Bull thought narrow lighter framed types often prMon, 02 Jun 2025 12:12:59 -0500There's a difference between a genuine thought that horse A needs X going, and coming to that conclusion to explain away a disappointing run. ie the politics of being a trainer. I maintain that it is highly unlikely you'd run a valuable filly for a hhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875529/have-we-just-seen-the-arc-winner?post_id=564760635#564760635There's a difference between a genuine thought that horse A needs X going, and coming to that conclusion to explain away a disappointing run. ie the politics of being a trainer. I maintain that it is highly unlikely you'd run a valuable filly for a hSun, 01 Jun 2025 04:45:10 -0500Many horses have a preference for good/fast or soft. Trainers can be wrong even after a few runs. Pro gamblers need to take a view and quickly. But yes everything is down to price in the end so they could "change " the view solely on price.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875529/have-we-just-seen-the-arc-winner?post_id=564760617#564760617Many horses have a preference for good/fast or soft. Trainers can be wrong even after a few runs. Pro gamblers need to take a view and quickly. But yes everything is down to price in the end so they could "change " the view solely on price.Sun, 01 Jun 2025 04:28:44 -0500Agree there’s lots of races before then. Great Group 1 today @ Chantilly, no thread and the race has an O’Brien FAV.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875529/have-we-just-seen-the-arc-winner?post_id=564760615#564760615Agree there’s lots of races before then. Great Group 1 today @ Chantilly, no thread and the race has an O’Brien FAV.Sun, 01 Jun 2025 04:28:31 -0500She looks to have a lot of the right ingredients for the race, Delashay. But it's not a betting prospect for me. She'll need to run more times before then, and will need to win to maintain her place in the Arc market. So better of putting the stake ohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875529/have-we-just-seen-the-arc-winner?post_id=564760611#564760611She looks to have a lot of the right ingredients for the race, Delashay. But it's not a betting prospect for me. She'll need to run more times before then, and will need to win to maintain her place in the Arc market. So better of putting the stake oSun, 01 Jun 2025 04:26:10 -0500Was trained by Gosden who recommended that she go to a quieter yard. Does he give away Arc hopefuls? Or find a quiet corner within his own yard and treat her differently.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875529/have-we-just-seen-the-arc-winner?post_id=564760609#564760609Was trained by Gosden who recommended that she go to a quieter yard. Does he give away Arc hopefuls? Or find a quiet corner within his own yard and treat her differently.Sun, 01 Jun 2025 04:24:37 -0500Southend fc promotion a bit more likely. See great 20/1 footie bet I can't place thread on horse racing forumhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875529/have-we-just-seen-the-arc-winner?post_id=564760607#564760607Southend fc promotion a bit more likely. See great 20/1 footie bet I can't place thread on horse racing forumSun, 01 Jun 2025 04:24:06 -0500For me it's the odds relative to the true probability. For example I had a bet in the £K's for a Labour Maj at the last election. The limitation at the bigger odds is getting on. But yes a long string of value losers can be challenging. But I stillhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875529/have-we-just-seen-the-arc-winner?post_id=564760599#564760599For me it's the odds relative to the true probability. For example I had a bet in the £K's for a Labour Maj at the last election. The limitation at the bigger odds is getting on. But yes a long string of value losers can be challenging. But I stillSun, 01 Jun 2025 04:20:32 -0500Of course I only started this thread as a Rico type opener. Impressive horse with the extreme end of possibility mentioned.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875529/have-we-just-seen-the-arc-winner?post_id=564760597#564760597Of course I only started this thread as a Rico type opener. Impressive horse with the extreme end of possibility mentioned.Sun, 01 Jun 2025 04:20:28 -0500Saying as they did on ITV that she can get soft ground in the Arc was a joke. There’s more easier group ones in Germany beforehand. Bit short sighted by the rampers on there. 16/1 for a horse that has yet to win a Group 1 looks short!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31875529/have-we-just-seen-the-arc-winner?post_id=564760595#564760595Saying as they did on ITV that she can get soft ground in the Arc was a joke. There’s more easier group ones in Germany beforehand. Bit short sighted by the rampers on there. 16/1 for a horse that has yet to win a Group 1 looks short!Sun, 01 Jun 2025 04:19:52 -0500