New Posts For Thread: 1962 Champion Hurdle Challenge Cuphttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31868551/1962-champion-hurdle-challenge-cuphttps://youtu.be/wS396sFQAKw?si=Cs5tcq5UZcs7HGx11959 renewalhttps://youtu.be/POCkUf-MBjk?si=iMK1-Uy085G97KN8just the finishes of both races...geoff m. I was aware of Sea Pigeon giving weight to Le Moss. I could be wrong, but I think it brought the comment from MH Easterby re Henry Cecil " I'm glad that buccer doesn't train jumpers ". Or words to that effectMac.Correct re Jock Whitney/Tree/https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31868551/1962-champion-hurdle-challenge-cup?post_id=564597559#564597559geoff m. I was aware of Sea Pigeon giving weight to Le Moss. I could be wrong, but I think it brought the comment from MH Easterby re Henry Cecil " I'm glad that buccer doesn't train jumpers ". Or words to that effectMac.Correct re Jock Whitney/Tree/Tue, 11 Mar 2025 18:49:47 -0500Very true Geoff and Drum.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31868551/1962-champion-hurdle-challenge-cup?post_id=564597097#564597097Very true Geoff and Drum.Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:43:59 -0500Thanks tommy. I think Jock Whitney originally owned the great Sea Pigeon with Jeremy Tree training. Think he ran in the Derby but not sure.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31868551/1962-champion-hurdle-challenge-cup?post_id=564597087#564597087Thanks tommy. I think Jock Whitney originally owned the great Sea Pigeon with Jeremy Tree training. Think he ran in the Derby but not sure.Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:41:25 -0500Unfortunately, a lot of people appear to think hurdling started with Istabraq. It's the same chasing with Kauto Star.You can't be comparing horses who wouldn't know what a handicap was. Their longevity has been protected by beating up inferiors off lhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31868551/1962-champion-hurdle-challenge-cup?post_id=564597083#564597083Unfortunately, a lot of people appear to think hurdling started with Istabraq. It's the same chasing with Kauto Star.You can't be comparing horses who wouldn't know what a handicap was. Their longevity has been protected by beating up inferiors off lTue, 11 Mar 2025 14:40:44 -0500Tommy one of Sea Pigeons greatest runs in defeat was on the Flat @ Ayr in the Doonside CUp .Carrying around 10-0 He gave (approx) a staggering 27lb from memory to the great stayer Le Moss (who subsequently won The St Leger) and was beaten a neck.Le Mhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31868551/1962-champion-hurdle-challenge-cup?post_id=564597073#564597073Tommy one of Sea Pigeons greatest runs in defeat was on the Flat @ Ayr in the Doonside CUp .Carrying around 10-0 He gave (approx) a staggering 27lb from memory to the great stayer Le Moss (who subsequently won The St Leger) and was beaten a neck.Le MTue, 11 Mar 2025 14:37:57 -0500Sorry. Don't know what went wrong there. What I said was that I don't believe the hurdlers today are anywhere near the standard of back then. I remember Sea Pigeon winning a handicap at Ayr carrying 12.7 ridden by D.Goulding and trained by G.W.Richarhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31868551/1962-champion-hurdle-challenge-cup?post_id=564597051#564597051Sorry. Don't know what went wrong there. What I said was that I don't believe the hurdlers today are anywhere near the standard of back then. I remember Sea Pigeon winning a handicap at Ayr carrying 12.7 ridden by D.Goulding and trained by G.W.RicharTue, 11 Mar 2025 14:25:48 -0500Yes Mac.I don't think todays hurdlers are anywhere near the standard we witnessed back in the day. By the way I don't think Golden Cygnet died on the course was he not taken to a Vetinary college possibly in Glasgow and died days later.Mention of Seahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31868551/1962-champion-hurdle-challenge-cup?post_id=564597031#564597031Yes Mac.I don't think todays hurdlers are anywhere near the standard we witnessed back in the day. By the way I don't think Golden Cygnet died on the course was he not taken to a Vetinary college possibly in Glasgow and died days later.Mention of SeaTue, 11 Mar 2025 14:07:46 -0500Mac. On way out to golf will answer later.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31868551/1962-champion-hurdle-challenge-cup?post_id=564594669#564594669Mac. On way out to golf will answer later.Tue, 11 Mar 2025 05:16:24 -0500Yes tommy, a very sad and tragic day. Happened at the last hurdle too, right in front of the stands. Sea Pigeon won, Night Nurse second and I think Beacon Light third. Golden Cygnet looked the sure winner. Seems like yesterday.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31868551/1962-champion-hurdle-challenge-cup?post_id=564594309#564594309Yes tommy, a very sad and tragic day. Happened at the last hurdle too, right in front of the stands. Sea Pigeon won, Night Nurse second and I think Beacon Light third. Golden Cygnet looked the sure winner. Seems like yesterday.Mon, 10 Mar 2025 19:05:56 -0500I was at Ayr that day too Mac. I still shudder when I think about it.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31868551/1962-champion-hurdle-challenge-cup?post_id=564594229#564594229I was at Ayr that day too Mac. I still shudder when I think about it.Mon, 10 Mar 2025 17:23:15 -0500