New Posts For Thread: Liquidity/ turnoverhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864529/liquidity-turnoverIts been a couple of weeks since the desperate approach of betfair to increase the liquidity of the markets by the introduction of expert fee/ premium charge etc , has anyone noticed any significant increase in the liquidity or turnover in any of eveas long as the overround is small enough.... Would your churning work if you have two accounts, lay your own bets across accounts, zero overround, no betting losses, just commission on each account.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864529/liquidity-turnover?post_id=564511593#564511593as long as the overround is small enough.... Would your churning work if you have two accounts, lay your own bets across accounts, zero overround, no betting losses, just commission on each account.Fri, 24 Jan 2025 16:05:41 -0600Gross profit and profit after commission are both reduced. But, as long as the overround is small enough, then contribution towards EF is greater than the value of profit lost, leaving you net net better off. This is because half of implied commissiohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864529/liquidity-turnover?post_id=564511547#564511547Gross profit and profit after commission are both reduced. But, as long as the overround is small enough, then contribution towards EF is greater than the value of profit lost, leaving you net net better off. This is because half of implied commissioFri, 24 Jan 2025 15:32:32 -0600i must be losing the plot...surely if you reduce your gross profit you're reducing your net profit?and which markets have a % under 100%?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864529/liquidity-turnover?post_id=564511491#564511491i must be losing the plot...surely if you reduce your gross profit you're reducing your net profit?and which markets have a % under 100%?Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:47:46 -0600Because you're betting into markets with a combined book% greater than 100%.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864529/liquidity-turnover?post_id=564511473#564511473Because you're betting into markets with a combined book% greater than 100%.Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:36:57 -0600"https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864529/liquidity-turnover?post_id=564511445#564511445"Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:23:45 -0600how does it reduce gross profit?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864529/liquidity-turnover?post_id=564511443#564511443how does it reduce gross profit?Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:22:04 -0600A bit better than that, but not far off. Plus it significantly reduces your gross profit which could come in very handy.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864529/liquidity-turnover?post_id=564511431#564511431A bit better than that, but not far off. Plus it significantly reduces your gross profit which could come in very handy.Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:16:41 -0600Asian handicap to normal match market is the easiest way to churn there is a bot that cross matches it so less workhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864529/liquidity-turnover?post_id=564511409#564511409Asian handicap to normal match market is the easiest way to churn there is a bot that cross matches it so less workFri, 24 Jan 2025 14:09:18 -0600ye, I'll stick a few more quid up in running to hand it to people who aren't even watching the race....er.....no thanks.-----------------------------------------exactly swifty.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864529/liquidity-turnover?post_id=564511407#564511407ye, I'll stick a few more quid up in running to hand it to people who aren't even watching the race....er.....no thanks.-----------------------------------------exactly swifty.Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:09:09 -0600sew your churning £20,000 on 2.5% implied to save £25?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864529/liquidity-turnover?post_id=564511399#564511399sew your churning £20,000 on 2.5% implied to save £25?Fri, 24 Jan 2025 14:06:44 -0600