New Posts For Thread: Horses too far back with a ton in hand getting beat.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864271/horses-too-far-back-with-a-ton-in-hand-getting-beatStella Hogan yesterday in the 15:05 Kempton (Jason Watson) and Brazilian Rose today in the 19:15 Newcastle (Kaiya Fraser).Both sitting on everything and jockey asking for nothing until It's too late. What is the point???Sit closer, win, go home, jobHate to see a horse held up last flat or jumps. Only got to make the ground up somewhere using up energy. The king of getting them btn over jumps is Sheehan, some howlers by him this season or is he riding for the pink side? Martin Pipe had it sussedhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864271/horses-too-far-back-with-a-ton-in-hand-getting-beat?post_id=564507475#564507475Hate to see a horse held up last flat or jumps. Only got to make the ground up somewhere using up energy. The king of getting them btn over jumps is Sheehan, some howlers by him this season or is he riding for the pink side? Martin Pipe had it sussedWed, 22 Jan 2025 11:43:02 -0600sageform , agree totally. Jamie Spencer thinks 'needs holding up' means 'sit last'.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864271/horses-too-far-back-with-a-ton-in-hand-getting-beat?post_id=564507359#564507359sageform , agree totally. Jamie Spencer thinks 'needs holding up' means 'sit last'.Wed, 22 Jan 2025 10:37:06 -0600I would be interested to know why a horse needs to be held up last rather than (say) fifth. I quite understand that some will pull up when in front but do they know the difference between being 5th or 10th in a 10 horse race? If a good jockey knows thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864271/horses-too-far-back-with-a-ton-in-hand-getting-beat?post_id=564507279#564507279I would be interested to know why a horse needs to be held up last rather than (say) fifth. I quite understand that some will pull up when in front but do they know the difference between being 5th or 10th in a 10 horse race? If a good jockey knows tWed, 22 Jan 2025 09:44:19 -0600Heirarchy had a stone in hand. Unfortunately the stone was in the stables !https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864271/horses-too-far-back-with-a-ton-in-hand-getting-beat?post_id=564507269#564507269Heirarchy had a stone in hand. Unfortunately the stone was in the stables !Wed, 22 Jan 2025 09:41:13 -0600When a horse is held up in rear there can only be 3 reasons Wrong. Complete ignores draw and horse's required run stylehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864271/horses-too-far-back-with-a-ton-in-hand-getting-beat?post_id=564507209#564507209When a horse is held up in rear there can only be 3 reasons Wrong. Complete ignores draw and horse's required run styleWed, 22 Jan 2025 09:25:17 -060016 to 6https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864271/horses-too-far-back-with-a-ton-in-hand-getting-beat?post_id=564507123#56450712316 to 6Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:31:33 -0600Eggsackly with the stable mate favhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864271/horses-too-far-back-with-a-ton-in-hand-getting-beat?post_id=564507119#564507119Eggsackly with the stable mate favWed, 22 Jan 2025 08:29:30 -0600hayley sitting last 2f out..had 2st in hand though.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864271/horses-too-far-back-with-a-ton-in-hand-getting-beat?post_id=564507085#564507085hayley sitting last 2f out..had 2st in hand though.Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:09:10 -0600First 3 winners at Lingfield all big prices. Is this the week to let the strugglers win something? My only bet was Diamond Dreamer place only and I was interested to see how quickly his in running price fell even when last in a 5f race. I know abouthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864271/horses-too-far-back-with-a-ton-in-hand-getting-beat?post_id=564507059#564507059First 3 winners at Lingfield all big prices. Is this the week to let the strugglers win something? My only bet was Diamond Dreamer place only and I was interested to see how quickly his in running price fell even when last in a 5f race. I know aboutWed, 22 Jan 2025 07:48:31 -060017 percenthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31864271/horses-too-far-back-with-a-ton-in-hand-getting-beat?post_id=564507025#56450702517 percentWed, 22 Jan 2025 07:32:22 -0600