New Posts For Thread: Charles Engelhard Questionhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31857853/charles-engelhard-questionI like doing old horse profiles, and noticed how many very good horses he got from around the mid 60's to the start of 70's. He came close to pulling off the Irish Derby/St Leger in 4 successive years. I am guessing that was from a relatively small nNijinsky was the top price at the sale at 84,000 so not so much an astute buy of an unconsidered horse by O'Brien as legend has it.He was offered for sale at the Windfields Farm's annual yearling auction where he was bought for $84,000 (equivalent tohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31857853/charles-engelhard-question?post_id=565383267#565383267Nijinsky was the top price at the sale at 84,000 so not so much an astute buy of an unconsidered horse by O'Brien as legend has it.He was offered for sale at the Windfields Farm's annual yearling auction where he was bought for $84,000 (equivalent toFri, 22 May 2026 07:03:34 -0500He had trainers in England/Ireland, the US, France and South Africa. As the article says, he had his first horses in South Africa in 1957.Peter Walwyn gave him his first winner in England, Ticklish, in 1959. FJ-H's first winner was for him, in 1961.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31857853/charles-engelhard-question?post_id=564361329#564361329He had trainers in England/Ireland, the US, France and South Africa. As the article says, he had his first horses in South Africa in 1957.Peter Walwyn gave him his first winner in England, Ticklish, in 1959. FJ-H's first winner was for him, in 1961.Tue, 05 Nov 2024 16:37:26 -0600Thanks Ged, an interesting, and as you say, a lengthy read. It doesn't give a breakdown of the 200+ horses, but I would imagine most were racing in the US.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31857853/charles-engelhard-question?post_id=564361129#564361129Thanks Ged, an interesting, and as you say, a lengthy read. It doesn't give a breakdown of the 200+ horses, but I would imagine most were racing in the US.Tue, 05 Nov 2024 15:10:08 -0600Yes Tommy, Indiana was indeed trained by Jack Watts and ridden by Jimmy Lindley. Was exported to stud in Japan. No videos of the race available. Which is a shame.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31857853/charles-engelhard-question?post_id=564360907#564360907Yes Tommy, Indiana was indeed trained by Jack Watts and ridden by Jimmy Lindley. Was exported to stud in Japan. No videos of the race available. Which is a shame.Tue, 05 Nov 2024 13:53:12 -0600Apologies senior moment. It was another Habitat mare, Brocade who was dam of Barathea and Gossamer. Yet another Group 1 winner by Habitat. Someone Special was dam of One So Wonderful who won the Juddmonte at York.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31857853/charles-engelhard-question?post_id=564360893#564360893Apologies senior moment. It was another Habitat mare, Brocade who was dam of Barathea and Gossamer. Yet another Group 1 winner by Habitat. Someone Special was dam of One So Wonderful who won the Juddmonte at York.Tue, 05 Nov 2024 13:43:10 -0600Habitat was a great example of the skill of Fulke Johnson Houghton. He managed to get the 3yo Habitat into the Lockinge with just 7.12 which Ron Hutchinson could do. At 10/1, he beat Jimmy Reppin and Wolver Hollow, the best older milers around, and whttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31857853/charles-engelhard-question?post_id=564360867#564360867Habitat was a great example of the skill of Fulke Johnson Houghton. He managed to get the 3yo Habitat into the Lockinge with just 7.12 which Ron Hutchinson could do. At 10/1, he beat Jimmy Reppin and Wolver Hollow, the best older milers around, and wTue, 05 Nov 2024 13:34:34 -0600Of courseMr BondI know your a secret agent!!!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31857853/charles-engelhard-question?post_id=564360511#564360511Of courseMr BondI know your a secret agent!!!Tue, 05 Nov 2024 10:34:14 -0600There's a long article about him here, from Sports Illustrated, written in the spring of 1969 when Ribofilio was his Derby hope...https://vault.si.com/vault/1969/04/28/the-walking-conglomerateHe took a punt on Ribot's prepotency, and was proved correhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31857853/charles-engelhard-question?post_id=564360461#564360461There's a long article about him here, from Sports Illustrated, written in the spring of 1969 when Ribofilio was his Derby hope...https://vault.si.com/vault/1969/04/28/the-walking-conglomerateHe took a punt on Ribot's prepotency, and was proved correTue, 05 Nov 2024 10:07:02 -0600This might help you out if looked into a bit more.300 horse with 125 in training.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31857853/charles-engelhard-question?post_id=564359769#564359769This might help you out if looked into a bit more.300 horse with 125 in training.Tue, 05 Nov 2024 06:35:17 -0600Do we know how many he had in training? Hard to believe it was anything like the numbers that Sangster had when he dominated. He had much of his success buying the Ribot's and then no doubt would have done similar with the Northern Dancer's after thehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31857853/charles-engelhard-question?post_id=564359719#564359719Do we know how many he had in training? Hard to believe it was anything like the numbers that Sangster had when he dominated. He had much of his success buying the Ribot's and then no doubt would have done similar with the Northern Dancer's after theTue, 05 Nov 2024 06:17:03 -0600