New Posts For Thread: shortest price you will do e/whttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31856151/shortest-price-you-will-do-ew2/1Forget explaining " Value" Hayden, the most overused and inaccurate description of a bet ever used, like beauty being in the eye of the beholder. How many times have we seen "Got the value though" on a loser? There is no value if there is no profit ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31856151/shortest-price-you-will-do-ew?post_id=564320243#564320243Forget explaining " Value" Hayden, the most overused and inaccurate description of a bet ever used, like beauty being in the eye of the beholder. How many times have we seen "Got the value though" on a loser? There is no value if there is no profit aTue, 15 Oct 2024 08:56:15 -0500Fair enough TM but we're probably at slightly cross purposes , i was clumsily referring largely to race by race punters and in particular ones who look to the same dimension relentlessly.In fact i'd agree you can eat value for sure over a long enoughhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31856151/shortest-price-you-will-do-ew?post_id=564320187#564320187Fair enough TM but we're probably at slightly cross purposes , i was clumsily referring largely to race by race punters and in particular ones who look to the same dimension relentlessly.In fact i'd agree you can eat value for sure over a long enoughTue, 15 Oct 2024 08:42:23 -0500Surely depends on your selection criteria? If your main reason for a selection is the breeder or pedigree or owner of a first time out maiden you are basing your selection on experience and years of study but the horse in question could be anything fhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31856151/shortest-price-you-will-do-ew?post_id=564320177#564320177Surely depends on your selection criteria? If your main reason for a selection is the breeder or pedigree or owner of a first time out maiden you are basing your selection on experience and years of study but the horse in question could be anything fTue, 15 Oct 2024 08:38:33 -0500Hayden - I usually agree with much of what you say - but I'd take issue when you say value is "subjective" or is just an opinion or is in the eye of the beholder. Even worse are the people that say you can't eat value.Of course you actually can eat ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31856151/shortest-price-you-will-do-ew?post_id=564320141#564320141Hayden - I usually agree with much of what you say - but I'd take issue when you say value is "subjective" or is just an opinion or is in the eye of the beholder. Even worse are the people that say you can't eat value.Of course you actually can eat iTue, 15 Oct 2024 08:27:04 -0500Crikey you look away to watch the World Series Baseball and come back to find this lot , hoped before reopening the thread there'd be some friendly & constructive posts debating both sides of each way choices , however ToptrI'm thinking your mathttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31856151/shortest-price-you-will-do-ew?post_id=564319917#564319917Crikey you look away to watch the World Series Baseball and come back to find this lot , hoped before reopening the thread there'd be some friendly & constructive posts debating both sides of each way choices , however ToptrI'm thinking your matTue, 15 Oct 2024 06:24:22 -0500The point as you well know Dave is that in that example where it went of at 4/7 you still try to beat the SP. FWIW I backed that one at 4/6 and backed it win only as well. How to read what'll go off shorter is the entire key of winning long term. I'mhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31856151/shortest-price-you-will-do-ew?post_id=564319899#564319899The point as you well know Dave is that in that example where it went of at 4/7 you still try to beat the SP. FWIW I backed that one at 4/6 and backed it win only as well. How to read what'll go off shorter is the entire key of winning long term. I'mTue, 15 Oct 2024 06:06:33 -0500didn't see your post, joe.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31856151/shortest-price-you-will-do-ew?post_id=564319897#564319897didn't see your post, joe.Tue, 15 Oct 2024 06:00:45 -0500how do you come to the conclusion a certain horse iss a value price ? different entirelyFor the sake of this discussion let's imagine a 1/2 shot that's 1.51 on the exchange to win and 1.05 to place (due to race shape). Over the longterm that bet wilhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31856151/shortest-price-you-will-do-ew?post_id=564319895#564319895how do you come to the conclusion a certain horse iss a value price ? different entirelyFor the sake of this discussion let's imagine a 1/2 shot that's 1.51 on the exchange to win and 1.05 to place (due to race shape). Over the longterm that bet wilTue, 15 Oct 2024 05:59:03 -0500Thank the Lord for Google Translate..https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31856151/shortest-price-you-will-do-ew?post_id=564319893#564319893Thank the Lord for Google Translate..Tue, 15 Oct 2024 05:57:23 -0500Dave gets it, I get it. My experience of all this is that it's pointless trying to explain all this to others who never will. I'll try here on that one I highlighted.Was 4/7 to win so 4/35 (1.114) the place. That was the SP. Likely "true price" the whttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31856151/shortest-price-you-will-do-ew?post_id=564319891#564319891Dave gets it, I get it. My experience of all this is that it's pointless trying to explain all this to others who never will. I'll try here on that one I highlighted.Was 4/7 to win so 4/35 (1.114) the place. That was the SP. Likely "true price" the wTue, 15 Oct 2024 05:55:47 -0500