New Posts For Thread: Mark Holder "stats a waste of time "https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31853885/mark-holder-stats-a-waste-of-timeanyone post it please ?Apologies, Swifty. You're previously been on the side of Common sense so I was surprised by your post. I got the wrong end of the stick...something I do statistically very often lolhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31853885/mark-holder-stats-a-waste-of-time?post_id=564277473#564277473Apologies, Swifty. You're previously been on the side of Common sense so I was surprised by your post. I got the wrong end of the stick...something I do statistically very often lolThu, 19 Sep 2024 11:00:47 -0500As for Swifty, it looks like he's swallowed everything the problem gamblers grifters are pushingquite the opposite, I was highlighting how all stats can be framed to suit a particular cause. Racing statisticians survive by the mugs lapping them up, Ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31853885/mark-holder-stats-a-waste-of-time?post_id=564277395#564277395As for Swifty, it looks like he's swallowed everything the problem gamblers grifters are pushingquite the opposite, I was highlighting how all stats can be framed to suit a particular cause. Racing statisticians survive by the mugs lapping them up, IThu, 19 Sep 2024 10:11:53 -0500Yes Screaming. So, expect this Labour Government to follow South Korea's lead on this very shortly!As for Swifty, it looks like he's swallowed everything the problem gamblers grifters are pushing. NOTHING is as black & white as what they push for thehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31853885/mark-holder-stats-a-waste-of-time?post_id=564277345#564277345Yes Screaming. So, expect this Labour Government to follow South Korea's lead on this very shortly!As for Swifty, it looks like he's swallowed everything the problem gamblers grifters are pushing. NOTHING is as black & white as what they push for theThu, 19 Sep 2024 09:47:21 -0500These are the only stats you need to know:1) South Korea has the highest suicide rate among the member countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).2) Under South Korean law, specifically Article 246 of the Criminal Ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31853885/mark-holder-stats-a-waste-of-time?post_id=564277253#564277253These are the only stats you need to know:1) South Korea has the highest suicide rate among the member countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).2) Under South Korean law, specifically Article 246 of the Criminal AThu, 19 Sep 2024 08:55:01 -0500The problem is that those 'stats' are lies.How can we possibly know how many suicides are linked to problem gambling, let alone how many are solely caused by it? Gambling is only mentioned on one coroner’s report a year, on average, which is presumhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31853885/mark-holder-stats-a-waste-of-time?post_id=564277249#564277249The problem is that those 'stats' are lies.How can we possibly know how many suicides are linked to problem gambling, let alone how many are solely caused by it? Gambling is only mentioned on one coroner’s report a year, on average, which is presumThu, 19 Sep 2024 08:52:03 -0500Key gambling stats117 to 496gambling-related suicides in England every year, according to a 2023 Office for Health Improvement and Disparities report2.5% of UK adults are suffering “problem gambling”9.1% of UK 18-24-year-olds who gamble suffer https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31853885/mark-holder-stats-a-waste-of-time?post_id=564277071#564277071Key gambling stats117 to 496gambling-related suicides in England every year, according to a 2023 Office for Health Improvement and Disparities report2.5% of UK adults are suffering “problem gambling”9.1% of UK 18-24-year-olds who gamble suffer Thu, 19 Sep 2024 07:01:22 -0500The vast majority of punters and people on here do not understand how to interpret statshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31853885/mark-holder-stats-a-waste-of-time?post_id=564277037#564277037The vast majority of punters and people on here do not understand how to interpret statsThu, 19 Sep 2024 06:32:04 -0500Certainly likes to blow his own trumpet, I gave up counting the amount of times he said he makes the game pay.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31853885/mark-holder-stats-a-waste-of-time?post_id=564276627#564276627Certainly likes to blow his own trumpet, I gave up counting the amount of times he said he makes the game pay.Wed, 18 Sep 2024 18:31:17 -0500A lot of the example being used here are not stats. They're form characteristics for individual horses. The discussion on statistics is surely about profiling characteristics of different horses over a set of results. Form has relevance, stats don't.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31853885/mark-holder-stats-a-waste-of-time?post_id=564276593#564276593A lot of the example being used here are not stats. They're form characteristics for individual horses. The discussion on statistics is surely about profiling characteristics of different horses over a set of results. Form has relevance, stats don't.Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:38:56 -0500wondersobright18 Sep 24 14:30remember when holder said that hcap marks are irrelevant in hcaps...comedy goldchuckle about that one most days when i'm adding to a horse's notes 'career-low mark when won...'https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31853885/mark-holder-stats-a-waste-of-time?post_id=564276451#564276451wondersobright18 Sep 24 14:30remember when holder said that hcap marks are irrelevant in hcaps...comedy goldchuckle about that one most days when i'm adding to a horse's notes 'career-low mark when won...'Wed, 18 Sep 2024 15:29:08 -0500