New Posts For Thread: Today's Juddmonte overhypedhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31851375/todays-juddmonte-overhypedMedia as usual talking up the race as a glittering competitive event. It was actually a very thin Gr.1 -only 2 previous Gr.1 winners in it and one of these was probably a softish one by Durazzo -over 15furlongs 4 months ago .COT did it well the hard"There is no right or wrong" There can be in your bank balance. Also ratings are a very good guide to how good individual horse are. Don't agree with DD. 3rd was over three lengths behind 4th another nearly four. Good post from Hayden.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31851375/todays-juddmonte-overhyped?post_id=564227037#564227037"There is no right or wrong" There can be in your bank balance. Also ratings are a very good guide to how good individual horse are. Don't agree with DD. 3rd was over three lengths behind 4th another nearly four. Good post from Hayden.Thu, 22 Aug 2024 07:47:28 -0500coolmore only have themselves to blame for any negativity towards the horse. last year he was "their Frankel" - then we were listening to ambitious plans of travers stakes/breeders cup. it seems to be largely about hyping the stallion justify - who fhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31851375/todays-juddmonte-overhyped?post_id=564226997#564226997coolmore only have themselves to blame for any negativity towards the horse. last year he was "their Frankel" - then we were listening to ambitious plans of travers stakes/breeders cup. it seems to be largely about hyping the stallion justify - who fThu, 22 Aug 2024 07:31:19 -0500City of Troy is a very good 10f/12f horse, not a miler the Guineas proved that. The best of his generation by some way but everything suggests they are a very ordinary bunch. Whether he is a superstar, all time great, just an above average Derby winnhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31851375/todays-juddmonte-overhyped?post_id=564226971#564226971City of Troy is a very good 10f/12f horse, not a miler the Guineas proved that. The best of his generation by some way but everything suggests they are a very ordinary bunch. Whether he is a superstar, all time great, just an above average Derby winnThu, 22 Aug 2024 07:09:16 -0500A lot of ~Tosh said on here as per usual!City Of Troy is the real Deal i still think there was quite a bit of juice left in the tank at the line.This colt is improving rapidly and compare generation's is always in Vain as you just can't do it.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31851375/todays-juddmonte-overhyped?post_id=564226891#564226891A lot of ~Tosh said on here as per usual!City Of Troy is the real Deal i still think there was quite a bit of juice left in the tank at the line.This colt is improving rapidly and compare generation's is always in Vain as you just can't do it.Thu, 22 Aug 2024 06:30:29 -0500Fair enough dd maybe i worded it badly , just seems the horse is receiving far too little credit vs achievements and most continuously feel compelled to compare to a previous era when we all know that's a debate that'll never be in total agreement.I'https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31851375/todays-juddmonte-overhyped?post_id=564226889#564226889Fair enough dd maybe i worded it badly , just seems the horse is receiving far too little credit vs achievements and most continuously feel compelled to compare to a previous era when we all know that's a debate that'll never be in total agreement.I'Thu, 22 Aug 2024 06:29:40 -0500Hayden,I'm not sure what you mean by knocking a horse. Trying to assess the merit of performances is not knocking a horse. The alternative is to go down the route which we are continually force fed by the media that everything is great. If you thinkhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31851375/todays-juddmonte-overhyped?post_id=564226865#564226865Hayden,I'm not sure what you mean by knocking a horse. Trying to assess the merit of performances is not knocking a horse. The alternative is to go down the route which we are continually force fed by the media that everything is great. If you thinkThu, 22 Aug 2024 06:17:47 -0500Probably stamped his covering fee already even if he runs in the Arc.He's won 2 GP1s @ 10F.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31851375/todays-juddmonte-overhyped?post_id=564226809#564226809Probably stamped his covering fee already even if he runs in the Arc.He's won 2 GP1s @ 10F.Thu, 22 Aug 2024 05:58:15 -0500Beggars belief to me as to why City of Troy has so many knockers after what it's achieved , give the horse a break What i would suggest though is if trained by Stoute the criticism or lack of faith would be far less and we all know what that means.Ghttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31851375/todays-juddmonte-overhyped?post_id=564226735#564226735Beggars belief to me as to why City of Troy has so many knockers after what it's achieved , give the horse a break What i would suggest though is if trained by Stoute the criticism or lack of faith would be far less and we all know what that means.GThu, 22 Aug 2024 05:21:04 -0500If City Of Troy runs in The Arc and wins connections can demand Euro 1m for each mare he covers, and there will be no quibbling from potential customers. But, almost a ZERO chance of that happening.City Of Troy is a good horse compared to his own agehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31851375/todays-juddmonte-overhyped?post_id=564226655#564226655If City Of Troy runs in The Arc and wins connections can demand Euro 1m for each mare he covers, and there will be no quibbling from potential customers. But, almost a ZERO chance of that happening.City Of Troy is a good horse compared to his own ageThu, 22 Aug 2024 04:28:15 -0500I think it's hard to bump his rating up based on the proximity of the second and third. They may of course decide to bump them all up. I do think City Of Troy has the potential to improve, but over a longer trip and ridden forward as he was today. Sahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31851375/todays-juddmonte-overhyped?post_id=564226457#564226457I think it's hard to bump his rating up based on the proximity of the second and third. They may of course decide to bump them all up. I do think City Of Troy has the potential to improve, but over a longer trip and ridden forward as he was today. SaWed, 21 Aug 2024 18:15:04 -0500