New Posts For Thread: Is there any point to jockeys pulling up winning horses near the lollypophttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31850061/is-there-any-point-to-jockeys-pulling-up-winning-horses-near-the-lollypopFollowing this week’s incident, is it pointless for a jockey to slow down a winning horse near the line? We all know that jockeys are mandated to try for the best possible positional finish. However, by pulling up a horse to reduce the winning margA horse that can win either on the bridle or with gentle pushing will have a much better experience than one that has the whip applied but pulling hard on the mouth to slow one down near the line is not a good idea.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31850061/is-there-any-point-to-jockeys-pulling-up-winning-horses-near-the-lollypop?post_id=564203487#564203487A horse that can win either on the bridle or with gentle pushing will have a much better experience than one that has the whip applied but pulling hard on the mouth to slow one down near the line is not a good idea.Wed, 07 Aug 2024 05:05:58 -0500The Risen used to strangle close home….https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31850061/is-there-any-point-to-jockeys-pulling-up-winning-horses-near-the-lollypop?post_id=564203411#564203411The Risen used to strangle close home….Wed, 07 Aug 2024 03:58:30 -0500I've always wondered if this has a negative impact on horses and could result in small injuries. Some of them pull the horses mouth with some force, usually after going 8 lengths clear and then try and win by 2 lPointless these dayshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31850061/is-there-any-point-to-jockeys-pulling-up-winning-horses-near-the-lollypop?post_id=564202009#564202009I've always wondered if this has a negative impact on horses and could result in small injuries. Some of them pull the horses mouth with some force, usually after going 8 lengths clear and then try and win by 2 lPointless these daysTue, 06 Aug 2024 10:20:55 -0500Where Money is changing hands there needs to be strict rules Stu is spot onhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31850061/is-there-any-point-to-jockeys-pulling-up-winning-horses-near-the-lollypop?post_id=564201991#564201991Where Money is changing hands there needs to be strict rules Stu is spot onTue, 06 Aug 2024 10:09:47 -0500The above should go for all horses either able to win or place still during the races, at the very least.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31850061/is-there-any-point-to-jockeys-pulling-up-winning-horses-near-the-lollypop?post_id=564201895#564201895The above should go for all horses either able to win or place still during the races, at the very least.Tue, 06 Aug 2024 09:08:09 -0500Deliberately slowing your horse before the finish line should be banned, aside from well beaten horses during the race.There may be some debate between what is 'slowing' and 'pushing out hands and heels' I suppose though. To me, slowing is where youhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31850061/is-there-any-point-to-jockeys-pulling-up-winning-horses-near-the-lollypop?post_id=564201889#564201889Deliberately slowing your horse before the finish line should be banned, aside from well beaten horses during the race.There may be some debate between what is 'slowing' and 'pushing out hands and heels' I suppose though. To me, slowing is where youTue, 06 Aug 2024 09:05:15 -0500Dave, your point would be perfectly valid if horses that are held up off a slow pace weren't so far behind. The ground some of them are asked to make up in an everyday race is patently not good enough and down to jockey error, if indeed the horse ishttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31850061/is-there-any-point-to-jockeys-pulling-up-winning-horses-near-the-lollypop?post_id=564201875#564201875Dave, your point would be perfectly valid if horses that are held up off a slow pace weren't so far behind. The ground some of them are asked to make up in an everyday race is patently not good enough and down to jockey error, if indeed the horse isTue, 06 Aug 2024 08:59:58 -0500doubt it is that much in their control. A pace horse that wins is either going to win relatively easily or weaken and just hold on. A finisher/stayer is dependent on a fast pace and a pace collapse can see it winning easily. There are of course horsehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31850061/is-there-any-point-to-jockeys-pulling-up-winning-horses-near-the-lollypop?post_id=564201773#564201773doubt it is that much in their control. A pace horse that wins is either going to win relatively easily or weaken and just hold on. A finisher/stayer is dependent on a fast pace and a pace collapse can see it winning easily. There are of course horseTue, 06 Aug 2024 08:24:29 -0500If they time their rides correctly the horses will hit the front in the last half furlong for example. You hear about jockeys having to time their effort, count to 10 and then go on. Too many go on too far out.Hitting the front say 2 and a half out ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31850061/is-there-any-point-to-jockeys-pulling-up-winning-horses-near-the-lollypop?post_id=564201737#564201737If they time their rides correctly the horses will hit the front in the last half furlong for example. You hear about jockeys having to time their effort, count to 10 and then go on. Too many go on too far out.Hitting the front say 2 and a half out aTue, 06 Aug 2024 08:10:05 -0500The distance backers won't be moaning when a horse is eased up & theirbet cops.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31850061/is-there-any-point-to-jockeys-pulling-up-winning-horses-near-the-lollypop?post_id=564201709#564201709The distance backers won't be moaning when a horse is eased up & theirbet cops.Tue, 06 Aug 2024 07:57:09 -0500