New Posts For Thread: AvB 1520 Bangorhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31833505/avb-1520-bangorThese markets often confuse me.Duke of Deception is shorter than Stellar Stream in the Win market, shorter in the Place market, but DoD is (just) odds-against to beat SS in the AvB?thanks Hayden - I'll need it!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31833505/avb-1520-bangor?post_id=563835491#563835491thanks Hayden - I'll need it!Wed, 28 Feb 2024 16:45:21 -0600Yes mate , your example is such a fine margin as the win prices were next door to each other and opinion in the A vs B market with far less solid liquidity is susceptible to quirkier graphs.Agree with the longer prices horses being paired together ashttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31833505/avb-1520-bangor?post_id=563835243#563835243Yes mate , your example is such a fine margin as the win prices were next door to each other and opinion in the A vs B market with far less solid liquidity is susceptible to quirkier graphs.Agree with the longer prices horses being paired together asWed, 28 Feb 2024 14:45:43 -0600"the Place price is likely to be shorter than one might expect "longer, sorry.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31833505/avb-1520-bangor?post_id=563835185#563835185"the Place price is likely to be shorter than one might expect "longer, sorry.Wed, 28 Feb 2024 14:29:00 -0600Thanks Hayden for the full and thoughtful reply.I get Win and Place markets being adrift - a horse that wins if he jumps round but jumps badly is unlikely to get across the finish line without being first, so the Place price is likely to be shorter thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31833505/avb-1520-bangor?post_id=563835167#563835167Thanks Hayden for the full and thoughtful reply.I get Win and Place markets being adrift - a horse that wins if he jumps round but jumps badly is unlikely to get across the finish line without being first, so the Place price is likely to be shorter tWed, 28 Feb 2024 14:25:49 -0600.... but the depth of bets in A v B are peanuts in comparison.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31833505/avb-1520-bangor?post_id=563835137#563835137.... but the depth of bets in A v B are peanuts in comparison.Wed, 28 Feb 2024 14:12:40 -0600Not that it would happen Hayden, coughcough, but it would be easier to manipulate the outcome of an A v B rather than the outright winner.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31833505/avb-1520-bangor?post_id=563835131#563835131Not that it would happen Hayden, coughcough, but it would be easier to manipulate the outcome of an A v B rather than the outright winner.Wed, 28 Feb 2024 14:11:11 -0600Soul destroying indeed Slippy!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31833505/avb-1520-bangor?post_id=563835071#563835071Soul destroying indeed Slippy!Wed, 28 Feb 2024 13:49:41 -0600longbridgeI think to " get it " you have to use a more severe example to appreciate that they're 3 different markets when a selection criteria can be so different.Take an 8 horse maiden hurdle , front 3 in the betting are 5/2 , 3/1 and 7/2 , the 5/2https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31833505/avb-1520-bangor?post_id=563834923#563834923longbridgeI think to " get it " you have to use a more severe example to appreciate that they're 3 different markets when a selection criteria can be so different.Take an 8 horse maiden hurdle , front 3 in the betting are 5/2 , 3/1 and 7/2 , the 5/2Wed, 28 Feb 2024 13:05:18 -0600Spot on Mac.Waiting for the head on to see if your one walked the last furlong a tad quicker than the other one. It was soul destroying moment as I thought to myself, has my punting really come to this?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31833505/avb-1520-bangor?post_id=563834907#563834907Spot on Mac.Waiting for the head on to see if your one walked the last furlong a tad quicker than the other one. It was soul destroying moment as I thought to myself, has my punting really come to this?Wed, 28 Feb 2024 12:59:37 -0600Timeform ratings, collateral form when I can find it, form on going and distance. Just about makes money (which is true of all my strategies - I just make enough to keep BF in commisson and me not having to deposit or withdraw).https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31833505/avb-1520-bangor?post_id=563834889#563834889Timeform ratings, collateral form when I can find it, form on going and distance. Just about makes money (which is true of all my strategies - I just make enough to keep BF in commisson and me not having to deposit or withdraw).Wed, 28 Feb 2024 12:54:37 -0600