New Posts For Thread: How much notice do you take of Stats?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832937/how-much-notice-do-you-take-of-statsI was looking at a horse two days ago at Newcastle i quite fancied at a price Prince Achille eventually ran 6th. I was encouraged by the trainer O'Keefes stats at this time of year, Jan-March where he's had a SR of 19/87, with 6 2nds, 14 3rds and 5 4Agree with steerforth.Always held the view about value just being a posh word for personal opinion though stew , one mans value is another mans lay which is how the exchange exists , can make a case for general value if mathematically proven but othehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832937/how-much-notice-do-you-take-of-stats?post_id=563822441#563822441Agree with steerforth.Always held the view about value just being a posh word for personal opinion though stew , one mans value is another mans lay which is how the exchange exists , can make a case for general value if mathematically proven but otheThu, 22 Feb 2024 12:29:59 -0600There are statistics and statistics. When a statistic is explicable by logic it has some use. In Haydens example of 2yo's, the logic being evidence of a weight scale failing to adequately account for maturity. Where a statistic relates to (as examplehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832937/how-much-notice-do-you-take-of-stats?post_id=563822383#563822383There are statistics and statistics. When a statistic is explicable by logic it has some use. In Haydens example of 2yo's, the logic being evidence of a weight scale failing to adequately account for maturity. Where a statistic relates to (as exampleThu, 22 Feb 2024 11:55:25 -0600Thanks for your replies Hayden, at one time we'd have had lots of people giving their views, but not much interest these days. Don't entirely agree with you about value but that's another subject.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832937/how-much-notice-do-you-take-of-stats?post_id=563822381#563822381Thanks for your replies Hayden, at one time we'd have had lots of people giving their views, but not much interest these days. Don't entirely agree with you about value but that's another subject.Thu, 22 Feb 2024 11:54:22 -0600Not at all , when in a slump a purple patch awaits and when in a purple patch a slump awaits as nobody keeps it up forever , when that change occurs nobody not even connections know.I also trust the exchange market the vast majority of times stew sohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832937/how-much-notice-do-you-take-of-stats?post_id=563822351#563822351Not at all , when in a slump a purple patch awaits and when in a purple patch a slump awaits as nobody keeps it up forever , when that change occurs nobody not even connections know.I also trust the exchange market the vast majority of times stew soThu, 22 Feb 2024 11:37:07 -0600Really, trainer form, jockey form, course form, distance, 3 yos running against older horses in h'caps early season etc, no interest to you hayden?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832937/how-much-notice-do-you-take-of-stats?post_id=563822233#563822233Really, trainer form, jockey form, course form, distance, 3 yos running against older horses in h'caps early season etc, no interest to you hayden?Thu, 22 Feb 2024 10:03:16 -0600No notice at all of stats but there are a few very rare occasions when they tell a story , example being say a 2yo taking on older horses with all the complexities of weight for age debates , so if a 2yo has only won maybe once in the last 20 examplehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832937/how-much-notice-do-you-take-of-stats?post_id=563822219#563822219No notice at all of stats but there are a few very rare occasions when they tell a story , example being say a 2yo taking on older horses with all the complexities of weight for age debates , so if a 2yo has only won maybe once in the last 20 exampleThu, 22 Feb 2024 09:48:34 -0600Sorry pressed wrong thing,Form figures after a long break reads 3145 runs off lowest ever mark today. My head says AW form is not good enough but stats for trainer are very good, 7/1 too short imo but i wouldn't have minded a bit EW last night at 20/https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832937/how-much-notice-do-you-take-of-stats?post_id=563821923#563821923Sorry pressed wrong thing,Form figures after a long break reads 3145 runs off lowest ever mark today. My head says AW form is not good enough but stats for trainer are very good, 7/1 too short imo but i wouldn't have minded a bit EW last night at 20/Thu, 22 Feb 2024 07:56:01 -0600I was looking at a horse two days ago at Newcastle i quite fancied at a price Prince Achille eventually ran 6th. I was encouraged by the trainer O'Keefes stats at this time of year, Jan-March where he's had a SR of 19/87, with 6 2nds, 14 3rds and 5 4https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832937/how-much-notice-do-you-take-of-stats?post_id=563821907#563821907I was looking at a horse two days ago at Newcastle i quite fancied at a price Prince Achille eventually ran 6th. I was encouraged by the trainer O'Keefes stats at this time of year, Jan-March where he's had a SR of 19/87, with 6 2nds, 14 3rds and 5 4Thu, 22 Feb 2024 07:49:49 -0600