New Posts For Thread: Pace of races destroying British jumpers.........fry and Coleman...https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832611/pace-of-races-destroying-british-jumpersfry-and-colemanThe problem is the programme book....not enough educational races in the country especially for chasers.......there is absolutely no way a horse should be making it's chase debut in a handicap.......but we see it every day ........ everything about rCatch 22 I suppose as if you run on your merits as an outsider in a maiden hurdle race you can be sure the handicapper will notice when it comes time to be allocated your handicap mark.Triers to the front right enough.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832611/pace-of-races-destroying-british-jumpersfry-and-coleman?post_id=563819907#563819907Catch 22 I suppose as if you run on your merits as an outsider in a maiden hurdle race you can be sure the handicapper will notice when it comes time to be allocated your handicap mark.Triers to the front right enough.Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:11:36 -06004.31, not bad imohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832611/pace-of-races-destroying-british-jumpersfry-and-coleman?post_id=563816049#5638160494.31, not bad imoMon, 19 Feb 2024 11:41:29 -0600letting horses kill themselves for betting purposes the latest anti woke attack linegot to love the **** on here,we managed to get to 4,31 on a monday before someone trotted THE WOKE line outhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832611/pace-of-races-destroying-british-jumpersfry-and-coleman?post_id=563815943#563815943letting horses kill themselves for betting purposes the latest anti woke attack linegot to love the **** on here,we managed to get to 4,31 on a monday before someone trotted THE WOKE line outMon, 19 Feb 2024 10:58:34 -0600Make fences easier and easier to jump, horses will go faster and faster.Make them tougher, a horse will takes its time and treat them with a lot more respect.If we stopped pandering to the 0.01% Woke generation and ignored them, things would be betthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832611/pace-of-races-destroying-british-jumpersfry-and-coleman?post_id=563815801#563815801Make fences easier and easier to jump, horses will go faster and faster.Make them tougher, a horse will takes its time and treat them with a lot more respect.If we stopped pandering to the 0.01% Woke generation and ignored them, things would be bettMon, 19 Feb 2024 10:31:35 -0600Naively, I would favour horses having to run in three novice chases before they can run in a handicap (and indeed they have to do that before they can run in a listed or graded handicap). But I suppose it would just end up like novice/beginners raceshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832611/pace-of-races-destroying-british-jumpersfry-and-coleman?post_id=563815077#563815077Naively, I would favour horses having to run in three novice chases before they can run in a handicap (and indeed they have to do that before they can run in a listed or graded handicap). But I suppose it would just end up like novice/beginners racesMon, 19 Feb 2024 07:13:17 -0600Probably because most can’t dictate the pace…..flat out or nothing…https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832611/pace-of-races-destroying-british-jumpersfry-and-coleman?post_id=563814813#563814813Probably because most can’t dictate the pace…..flat out or nothing…Mon, 19 Feb 2024 04:38:43 -0600In novice races in Ireland invariably those at the head of the market go forward. I would far sooner see that than the likes of Skelton, and O'Brien runners dropped out the back. The horse that won the Ascot bumper for Fry got away with an 'educationhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832611/pace-of-races-destroying-british-jumpersfry-and-coleman?post_id=563814807#563814807In novice races in Ireland invariably those at the head of the market go forward. I would far sooner see that than the likes of Skelton, and O'Brien runners dropped out the back. The horse that won the Ascot bumper for Fry got away with an 'educationMon, 19 Feb 2024 04:36:10 -0600Havent read the article George but what i see in racing today is, its all about getting the horse settled and 'getting a lead' gone are the days of the Tied Cottages tearing off or Peter Scudamore going 30l clear catch me if you can tactics, they allhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832611/pace-of-races-destroying-british-jumpersfry-and-coleman?post_id=563814795#563814795Havent read the article George but what i see in racing today is, its all about getting the horse settled and 'getting a lead' gone are the days of the Tied Cottages tearing off or Peter Scudamore going 30l clear catch me if you can tactics, they allMon, 19 Feb 2024 04:26:59 -0600What the article failed to mention, and I know one of the two races referred to was a hurdles race, is that if they make the fences easier to jump / brush through, then yes, they will go quicker.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832611/pace-of-races-destroying-british-jumpersfry-and-coleman?post_id=563814781#563814781What the article failed to mention, and I know one of the two races referred to was a hurdles race, is that if they make the fences easier to jump / brush through, then yes, they will go quicker.Mon, 19 Feb 2024 04:13:53 -0600The problem is the programme book....not enough educational races in the country especially for chasers.......there is absolutely no way a horse should be making it's chase debut in a handicap.......but we see it every day ........ everything about rhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31832611/pace-of-races-destroying-british-jumpersfry-and-coleman?post_id=563814759#563814759The problem is the programme book....not enough educational races in the country especially for chasers.......there is absolutely no way a horse should be making it's chase debut in a handicap.......but we see it every day ........ everything about rMon, 19 Feb 2024 03:53:12 -0600