New Posts For Thread: What Was The Last 'Jumps Horse' To Win 30 Races?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31829911/what-was-the-last-jumps-horse-to-win-30-racesQuestion arose because (form books permitting) I like to compile full records of horses when I first became interested. Yesterday, I did The Spaniard who was a very consistent handicapper through the 60's and early 70's. He won a George Duller, FredTotally agree with you DD. The breed is weaker NH and Flathttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31829911/what-was-the-last-jumps-horse-to-win-30-races?post_id=563757723#563757723Totally agree with you DD. The breed is weaker NH and FlatThu, 25 Jan 2024 05:27:33 -0600Just because all the outside factors have improved it doesn't mean the horse itself has improved. I suspect it's the total opposite, and we now have as weak a breed as we have ever had. Why do you think that the best horses are basically wrapped up ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31829911/what-was-the-last-jumps-horse-to-win-30-races?post_id=563757673#563757673Just because all the outside factors have improved it doesn't mean the horse itself has improved. I suspect it's the total opposite, and we now have as weak a breed as we have ever had. Why do you think that the best horses are basically wrapped up iThu, 25 Jan 2024 05:14:38 -0600Limestone Lad, as previously mentioned, won 35. 29 over hurdles, 4 chases, and 2 bumpers. Over 60 career runs, including 12 in one season, and the old boy is still alive and kicking at the ripe old age of 32. Picture of him on Twatter yesterday. Givehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31829911/what-was-the-last-jumps-horse-to-win-30-races?post_id=563757463#563757463Limestone Lad, as previously mentioned, won 35. 29 over hurdles, 4 chases, and 2 bumpers. Over 60 career runs, including 12 in one season, and the old boy is still alive and kicking at the ripe old age of 32. Picture of him on Twatter yesterday. GiveThu, 25 Jan 2024 04:04:07 -0600Excellent posts , and yes understand Greg Wood's final comment .Tiger , Arkle did give two stone 5lbs to a Gold Cup winner in What A Myth , when that horse as a 9yo was arguably in his prime , rather than when it won the GC . But as Elise says , it whttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31829911/what-was-the-last-jumps-horse-to-win-30-races?post_id=563757417#563757417Excellent posts , and yes understand Greg Wood's final comment .Tiger , Arkle did give two stone 5lbs to a Gold Cup winner in What A Myth , when that horse as a 9yo was arguably in his prime , rather than when it won the GC . But as Elise says , it wThu, 25 Jan 2024 03:54:45 -0600Arkle was very good of course but the very fact that he was 2 stone ahead of the rest makes you wonder how the rest would cope against the top 4 in the Gold Cup this year. Mill House at his very best was at least 10lb behind but the other chasers ofhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31829911/what-was-the-last-jumps-horse-to-win-30-races?post_id=563756851#563756851Arkle was very good of course but the very fact that he was 2 stone ahead of the rest makes you wonder how the rest would cope against the top 4 in the Gold Cup this year. Mill House at his very best was at least 10lb behind but the other chasers ofWed, 24 Jan 2024 15:17:56 -0600I wasnt disagreeing with you dd, as great a horse Arkle was I'm not so sure that he would give 2 stone away to other Grade 1 winners, he certainly was capable of giving 16lb away but 28lb, I'm not so sure. Its always difficult to compare previous erahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31829911/what-was-the-last-jumps-horse-to-win-30-races?post_id=563756709#563756709I wasnt disagreeing with you dd, as great a horse Arkle was I'm not so sure that he would give 2 stone away to other Grade 1 winners, he certainly was capable of giving 16lb away but 28lb, I'm not so sure. Its always difficult to compare previous eraWed, 24 Jan 2024 13:46:15 -0600if you take the view that it's more competitive now as above, is that saying we've a more level playing field when it comes to training or are you saying the horse population is on average better (or both)?When you take in scientific advances, vets,https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31829911/what-was-the-last-jumps-horse-to-win-30-races?post_id=563756695#563756695if you take the view that it's more competitive now as above, is that saying we've a more level playing field when it comes to training or are you saying the horse population is on average better (or both)?When you take in scientific advances, vets,Wed, 24 Jan 2024 13:41:08 -0600TT,I am not exactly sure what you are asking, but other than Flyingbolt, Arkle has a Timeform rating much higher than anything else. I am not going to dispute that rating.If you really want to understand that rating I would suggest reading a book onhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31829911/what-was-the-last-jumps-horse-to-win-30-races?post_id=563756651#563756651TT,I am not exactly sure what you are asking, but other than Flyingbolt, Arkle has a Timeform rating much higher than anything else. I am not going to dispute that rating.If you really want to understand that rating I would suggest reading a book onWed, 24 Jan 2024 13:18:15 -0600https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jI9YEDSbDgArkle The Greatest Steeplechaser EverA good watch.Flyingbolt fans?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31829911/what-was-the-last-jumps-horse-to-win-30-races?post_id=563756629#563756629https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jI9YEDSbDgArkle The Greatest Steeplechaser EverA good watch.Flyingbolt fans?Wed, 24 Jan 2024 13:05:22 -0600and didn't suffer one fatal fallAny you know of that suffered two?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31829911/what-was-the-last-jumps-horse-to-win-30-races?post_id=563756621#563756621and didn't suffer one fatal fallAny you know of that suffered two?Wed, 24 Jan 2024 13:00:18 -0600