New Posts For Thread: Suggestions for alleviating racings ills?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31827887/suggestions-for-alleviating-racings-ills2024 is a new year and with a fresh head I thought I would start a discussion on a very hot topic. How do we improve horseracing as a product/industry and make sure that it doesn’t just wither away on the vine and become a total irrelevance is sayYou might be right but it is not an intrinsic result of using AW surfaces! It is because they race at night in the winter in front of small crowds for low prize money. When they run a good quality race on AW I can't see why it is any different from thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31827887/suggestions-for-alleviating-racings-ills?post_id=563713081#563713081You might be right but it is not an intrinsic result of using AW surfaces! It is because they race at night in the winter in front of small crowds for low prize money. When they run a good quality race on AW I can't see why it is any different from tSat, 06 Jan 2024 13:43:46 -0600It's the cheating I object to. Yes it goes on on turf as well but whether you want to believe it or just refuse to it's a rarity to see an AW race that isn't in any way rancid. The 'low grade' line is just supposed to be accepted by all as an excusehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31827887/suggestions-for-alleviating-racings-ills?post_id=563712987#563712987It's the cheating I object to. Yes it goes on on turf as well but whether you want to believe it or just refuse to it's a rarity to see an AW race that isn't in any way rancid. The 'low grade' line is just supposed to be accepted by all as an excuseSat, 06 Jan 2024 12:38:18 -0600So is it the AW surface you object to or the low grade handicaps that are run on it in the winter? To me it is a more consistent surface and my main concern is the very sharp bend and short straights at Wolvs and Lingfield. Do you prefer to see horsehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31827887/suggestions-for-alleviating-racings-ills?post_id=563712531#563712531So is it the AW surface you object to or the low grade handicaps that are run on it in the winter? To me it is a more consistent surface and my main concern is the very sharp bend and short straights at Wolvs and Lingfield. Do you prefer to see horseSat, 06 Jan 2024 08:49:53 -0600So you now claim to speak for "everyone".https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31827887/suggestions-for-alleviating-racings-ills?post_id=563712503#563712503So you now claim to speak for "everyone".Sat, 06 Jan 2024 08:41:47 -0600Absolutely enjoy it. But don't pretend it's good for racing in general when everyone knows it's the opposite.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31827887/suggestions-for-alleviating-racings-ills?post_id=563712395#563712395Absolutely enjoy it. But don't pretend it's good for racing in general when everyone knows it's the opposite.Sat, 06 Jan 2024 08:01:43 -0600MJK Joined: 13 May 10Replies: 1637406 Jan 24 12:02 As usual you pounce when anyone (me in particular)says anything negative about the filth racing. Oh and anyone who actually believes form means anything on AW racing is a total idiotAnd as usual youhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31827887/suggestions-for-alleviating-racings-ills?post_id=563712137#563712137MJK Joined: 13 May 10Replies: 1637406 Jan 24 12:02 As usual you pounce when anyone (me in particular)says anything negative about the filth racing. Oh and anyone who actually believes form means anything on AW racing is a total idiotAnd as usual youSat, 06 Jan 2024 06:10:58 -0600Jimnast if they're happy being owners in it then that's fine. But nobody will ever convince me AW is somehow everything that is good about racing. Particularly Newcastle AW/jockeys involved. That's beyond laughable at this stage.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31827887/suggestions-for-alleviating-racings-ills?post_id=563712119#563712119Jimnast if they're happy being owners in it then that's fine. But nobody will ever convince me AW is somehow everything that is good about racing. Particularly Newcastle AW/jockeys involved. That's beyond laughable at this stage.Sat, 06 Jan 2024 06:03:47 -0600Jimnast if those owners are happy with being involved in this then that's fine. But nobody will ever convince me that AW is good for racing. That Newcastle track/jockeys is beyond laughable at this stage. So long as the bookies are happy that's the mhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31827887/suggestions-for-alleviating-racings-ills?post_id=563712101#563712101Jimnast if those owners are happy with being involved in this then that's fine. But nobody will ever convince me that AW is good for racing. That Newcastle track/jockeys is beyond laughable at this stage. So long as the bookies are happy that's the mSat, 06 Jan 2024 06:02:15 -0600As usual you pounce when anyone (me in particular)says anything negative about the filth racing. Oh and anyone who actually believes form means anything on AW racing is a total idiot.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31827887/suggestions-for-alleviating-racings-ills?post_id=563712083#563712083As usual you pounce when anyone (me in particular)says anything negative about the filth racing. Oh and anyone who actually believes form means anything on AW racing is a total idiot.Sat, 06 Jan 2024 05:59:51 -0600A few other things the aw does mjk is give young jockeys a start up in there career’s like billy loughlane it gives many owners who can’t buy foals by frankel a chance to have runners and get very well looked after by the aw tracks whilst gettihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31827887/suggestions-for-alleviating-racings-ills?post_id=563712045#563712045A few other things the aw does mjk is give young jockeys a start up in there career’s like billy loughlane it gives many owners who can’t buy foals by frankel a chance to have runners and get very well looked after by the aw tracks whilst gettiSat, 06 Jan 2024 05:47:47 -0600