New Posts For Thread: Can horses be put into class 1 arbitrarily or what?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31813857/can-horses-be-put-into-class-1-arbitrarily-or-whatFrankellina won her Class 4 debut by 0.1 lengths as a fav. Then was put into C1, placed once in 6 runs and retired. Could've had a nice career as a C3 horse at least.Thanks Ramruma, an actual useful poster is rare around here.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31813857/can-horses-be-put-into-class-1-arbitrarily-or-what?post_id=563375093#563375093Thanks Ramruma, an actual useful poster is rare around here.Thu, 17 Aug 2023 13:14:19 -0500For fillies, her value for breeding goes up if she wins or is placed in a pattern race. This is called "black type" because in a sales catalogue, they are shown in bold (ie black) type.Here is the catalogue page for Mighty Ulysses who won today, whenhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31813857/can-horses-be-put-into-class-1-arbitrarily-or-what?post_id=563374667#563374667For fillies, her value for breeding goes up if she wins or is placed in a pattern race. This is called "black type" because in a sales catalogue, they are shown in bold (ie black) type.Here is the catalogue page for Mighty Ulysses who won today, whenThu, 17 Aug 2023 11:36:39 -0500Do you understand the program book, the pattern and the modus operandi for a well bred filly?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31813857/can-horses-be-put-into-class-1-arbitrarily-or-what?post_id=563374547#563374547Do you understand the program book, the pattern and the modus operandi for a well bred filly?Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:04:18 -0500Still, if a horse is not good enough for C1, it could still win easier races. I guess the owner was only insterested in winning C1s.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31813857/can-horses-be-put-into-class-1-arbitrarily-or-what?post_id=563374357#563374357Still, if a horse is not good enough for C1, it could still win easier races. I guess the owner was only insterested in winning C1s.Thu, 17 Aug 2023 10:14:17 -0500I was checking out how Frankel's progeny was doing. It's no longer a holy grail it seems.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31813857/can-horses-be-put-into-class-1-arbitrarily-or-what?post_id=563374345#563374345I was checking out how Frankel's progeny was doing. It's no longer a holy grail it seems.Thu, 17 Aug 2023 10:12:43 -0500Yes but in the early stages of a horse's career, its ability is very much in the eyes of connections, with an eye on morning gallops, pedigree and price tag. Frankellina had the campaign you'd expect of an Oaks filly: win an end-of-term maiden at twohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31813857/can-horses-be-put-into-class-1-arbitrarily-or-what?post_id=563374133#563374133Yes but in the early stages of a horse's career, its ability is very much in the eyes of connections, with an eye on morning gallops, pedigree and price tag. Frankellina had the campaign you'd expect of an Oaks filly: win an end-of-term maiden at twoThu, 17 Aug 2023 09:20:14 -0500Class 1 is supposed to be for the best horses, not ones that happened to win a C4 debut by a head.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31813857/can-horses-be-put-into-class-1-arbitrarily-or-what?post_id=563373731#563373731Class 1 is supposed to be for the best horses, not ones that happened to win a C4 debut by a head.Thu, 17 Aug 2023 07:13:05 -0500Are you being serious?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31813857/can-horses-be-put-into-class-1-arbitrarily-or-what?post_id=563373677#563373677Are you being serious?Thu, 17 Aug 2023 06:43:45 -0500Frankellina won her Class 4 debut by 0.1 lengths as a fav. Then was put into C1, placed once in 6 runs and retired. Could've had a nice career as a C3 horse at least.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31813857/can-horses-be-put-into-class-1-arbitrarily-or-what?post_id=563373649#563373649Frankellina won her Class 4 debut by 0.1 lengths as a fav. Then was put into C1, placed once in 6 runs and retired. Could've had a nice career as a C3 horse at least.Thu, 17 Aug 2023 06:16:10 -0500