New Posts For Thread: Standard Timeshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31811053/standard-timesIs there a site not behind a pay wall, that provides standard times for UK and Irish courses. With the unpredictability of the going becoming worryingly more common I wonder the actual relevance of them. Any thoughts?I love this snarky post:-I stopped paying attention to these particular speed figures a couple of seasons ago when James Underwood's Digest pointed out they'd given a runner in a seller had a higher speed figure than some of the field for another rachttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31811053/standard-times?post_id=563316187#563316187I love this snarky post:-I stopped paying attention to these particular speed figures a couple of seasons ago when James Underwood's Digest pointed out they'd given a runner in a seller had a higher speed figure than some of the field for another racTue, 25 Jul 2023 04:39:40 -0500There is also a note that Dave Edwards described his method in the Sporting Life Guide to the Flat, 1994.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31811053/standard-times?post_id=563316047#563316047There is also a note that Dave Edwards described his method in the Sporting Life Guide to the Flat, 1994.Tue, 25 Jul 2023 02:21:46 -0500OK a quick Bing finds this 20-year-old thread from the old uk.sport.horseracing newsgroup discussing different speed figure compilers.https://uk.sport.horseracing.narkive.com/SiQW440U/topspeed-formulaI love this snarky post:-I stopped paying attentiohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31811053/standard-times?post_id=563316041#563316041OK a quick Bing finds this 20-year-old thread from the old uk.sport.horseracing newsgroup discussing different speed figure compilers.https://uk.sport.horseracing.narkive.com/SiQW440U/topspeed-formulaI love this snarky post:-I stopped paying attentioTue, 25 Jul 2023 02:13:20 -0500@screaming from beneaththewavesYes, I know RPR & TS are independent now; I was trying to remember how Topspeed began, long before the Sporting Life's Dave Edwards took over after the merger.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31811053/standard-times?post_id=563316017#563316017@screaming from beneaththewavesYes, I know RPR & TS are independent now; I was trying to remember how Topspeed began, long before the Sporting Life's Dave Edwards took over after the merger.Tue, 25 Jul 2023 01:22:47 -0500I haven't made myself clear then, omlooker. My whole point is that when calculating speed figures you lose correlation with official ratings (or RPR), and hence the speed figures get lower and lower. That's what rating races according to your speed fhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31811053/standard-times?post_id=563315599#563315599I haven't made myself clear then, omlooker. My whole point is that when calculating speed figures you lose correlation with official ratings (or RPR), and hence the speed figures get lower and lower. That's what rating races according to your speed fMon, 24 Jul 2023 14:28:14 -0500screaming from beneath - That is your individual - and, may I see, unique way of operating I can assure you - and other readers, that Topspeed does not calculate Speed figures like that - as he makes absolutely No correlation with Official Ratings whhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31811053/standard-times?post_id=563315447#563315447screaming from beneath - That is your individual - and, may I see, unique way of operating I can assure you - and other readers, that Topspeed does not calculate Speed figures like that - as he makes absolutely No correlation with Official Ratings whMon, 24 Jul 2023 13:30:42 -0500No, I didn't know that, onlooker.It is a hazard with speed figures. You create them by identifying the race on the card which is closest to standard time compared with the class of horses running in it. Every other race on the card is rated against thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31811053/standard-times?post_id=563315217#563315217No, I didn't know that, onlooker.It is a hazard with speed figures. You create them by identifying the race on the card which is closest to standard time compared with the class of horses running in it. Every other race on the card is rated against tMon, 24 Jul 2023 12:00:47 -0500What was the deal with the original Topspeed figures? iirc they were somehow rebased to the RPR each horse had run to, which meant Topspeed figures had to wait a day or three until the Racing Post form team had calculated the RPRs.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31811053/standard-times?post_id=563315161#563315161What was the deal with the original Topspeed figures? iirc they were somehow rebased to the RPR each horse had run to, which meant Topspeed figures had to wait a day or three until the Racing Post form team had calculated the RPRs.Mon, 24 Jul 2023 11:49:18 -0500screaming from beneaththewaves Were you aware that - Several years ago - Topspeed (Dave Edwards) was instructed by higher echelons at the Racing Post to Increase his STANDARD Times - (ie - a 5f - 59 secs - increase to - just over 1 minute) - and comphttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31811053/standard-times?post_id=563315085#563315085screaming from beneaththewaves Were you aware that - Several years ago - Topspeed (Dave Edwards) was instructed by higher echelons at the Racing Post to Increase his STANDARD Times - (ie - a 5f - 59 secs - increase to - just over 1 minute) - and compMon, 24 Jul 2023 11:10:01 -0500Mordin On Time only works on the Moon, which, to be fair, was where Mordin appeared to be wired half the time.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31811053/standard-times?post_id=563315007#563315007Mordin On Time only works on the Moon, which, to be fair, was where Mordin appeared to be wired half the time.Mon, 24 Jul 2023 10:39:12 -0500