New Posts For Thread: why are the markets getting worse?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31810021/why-are-the-markets-getting-worseIt seems that week-after-week the markets are declining in terms of liquidity. Most of the time my back orders don't get matched or if they do they take far too long. Nearly every back market order will result in the selection shortening but only wMaybe punters can’t be @rsed anymore…..ffshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31810021/why-are-the-markets-getting-worse?post_id=563300011#563300011Maybe punters can’t be @rsed anymore…..ffsMon, 17 Jul 2023 11:46:24 -0500The knight , what on earth are you doing on this forum , you talk far too much sense. Conspiracies abound ,but you ignore them , just because there is no evidence . Also you don't articulate every single thought in your head , hence your relative lowhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31810021/why-are-the-markets-getting-worse?post_id=563299963#563299963The knight , what on earth are you doing on this forum , you talk far too much sense. Conspiracies abound ,but you ignore them , just because there is no evidence . Also you don't articulate every single thought in your head , hence your relative lowMon, 17 Jul 2023 11:33:34 -0500Volatility (wild price swings on most runners)This is a good thing. A very good thing. The more volatility, the more chance of a good price to back or lay being available.To be honest, I've found this place improving out of all recognition pre-race ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31810021/why-are-the-markets-getting-worse?post_id=563298917#563298917Volatility (wild price swings on most runners)This is a good thing. A very good thing. The more volatility, the more chance of a good price to back or lay being available.To be honest, I've found this place improving out of all recognition pre-race iSun, 16 Jul 2023 18:23:22 -0500revs..as a full time player since 2012, 95% on exchanges I have never thought BF 'screwing me' or 'scheming' has had any noticeable effect. And bar 2015, I have made a profit each of those years. Granted, the Premium Charge is obnoxious and so I am mhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31810021/why-are-the-markets-getting-worse?post_id=563298903#563298903revs..as a full time player since 2012, 95% on exchanges I have never thought BF 'screwing me' or 'scheming' has had any noticeable effect. And bar 2015, I have made a profit each of those years. Granted, the Premium Charge is obnoxious and so I am mSun, 16 Jul 2023 18:02:05 -0500technology/prophets has took ower...https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31810021/why-are-the-markets-getting-worse?post_id=563294965#563294965technology/prophets has took ower...Sat, 15 Jul 2023 10:10:56 -0500I think people leaving is exponential, and as a result it will get progressively worse. I've traded the July Cup today and I've been responsible for nearly 10% of the pre-market turnover. Once I leave, the only ones left will be Robbie the Robot, ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31810021/why-are-the-markets-getting-worse?post_id=563294955#563294955I think people leaving is exponential, and as a result it will get progressively worse. I've traded the July Cup today and I've been responsible for nearly 10% of the pre-market turnover. Once I leave, the only ones left will be Robbie the Robot, aSat, 15 Jul 2023 10:08:29 -0500Money was cheap for many years, that created rampant asset prices and valuations that were unsustainable.Now money is expensive (the cost to borrow), and the only thing keeping the economy up was employment vacancies.But they have now started to conthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31810021/why-are-the-markets-getting-worse?post_id=563294045#563294045Money was cheap for many years, that created rampant asset prices and valuations that were unsustainable.Now money is expensive (the cost to borrow), and the only thing keeping the economy up was employment vacancies.But they have now started to contSat, 15 Jul 2023 06:57:51 -0500revs...despite the theories about Betfair's various schemes (and these theories might be right or they might be wrong) I would have thought the most obvious answer is the country's economic situation. Brexit, Liz Truss and her daft chancellor, plus yhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31810021/why-are-the-markets-getting-worse?post_id=563293997#563293997revs...despite the theories about Betfair's various schemes (and these theories might be right or they might be wrong) I would have thought the most obvious answer is the country's economic situation. Brexit, Liz Truss and her daft chancellor, plus ySat, 15 Jul 2023 06:39:16 -0500I’ve found matchbook finehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31810021/why-are-the-markets-getting-worse?post_id=563293601#563293601I’ve found matchbook fineSat, 15 Jul 2023 03:31:14 -0500Many not playing on own accounts.I be a medium player rather than small or larger nowerdays I think.Can only speak about Greyhound markets recently, its a good observation, I am 90% lay, as a made up example I would be happily laying 4.0 then a bit ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31810021/why-are-the-markets-getting-worse?post_id=563293541#563293541Many not playing on own accounts.I be a medium player rather than small or larger nowerdays I think.Can only speak about Greyhound markets recently, its a good observation, I am 90% lay, as a made up example I would be happily laying 4.0 then a bit aSat, 15 Jul 2023 03:02:17 -0500