New Posts For Thread: Are Hills now doing their own SP's on UK racing??https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31686837/are-hills-now-doing-their-own-sps-on-uk-racing1.55 SouthwellOfficial4. Onebaba 7/11. Qaaraat 4/12. Sir Rodneyredblood 10/3Hills4. Onebaba 13/21. Qaaraat 7/22. Sir Rodneyredblood 10/3??ronnie, they have done that since ever Rule 4 existed as well as manipulating weak markets.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31686837/are-hills-now-doing-their-own-sps-on-uk-racing?post_id=560434197#560434197ronnie, they have done that since ever Rule 4 existed as well as manipulating weak markets.Tue, 26 Jan 2021 15:49:28 -0600The Dealer I remember over 30 years ago at Hexham a 12/1 shot had bolted just before the start an office agent was then backing it I could not understand it it started 8sI then started to understand it.Ronnie.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31686837/are-hills-now-doing-their-own-sps-on-uk-racing?post_id=560433803#560433803The Dealer I remember over 30 years ago at Hexham a 12/1 shot had bolted just before the start an office agent was then backing it I could not understand it it started 8sI then started to understand it.Ronnie.Tue, 26 Jan 2021 14:15:25 -0600I think they might have shortened up a few Ronnie, when it suits. Looks grim for the whole industry, the shortfall in money will never be replaced. As for the shops, they can't survive with the present costs each shop have to pay.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31686837/are-hills-now-doing-their-own-sps-on-uk-racing?post_id=560433789#560433789I think they might have shortened up a few Ronnie, when it suits. Looks grim for the whole industry, the shortfall in money will never be replaced. As for the shops, they can't survive with the present costs each shop have to pay.Tue, 26 Jan 2021 14:12:19 -0600The Dealerdon't think the firms have played for years the oncourse books would not play fair with themhope you are well when do you think we will be backregardsRonnie.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31686837/are-hills-now-doing-their-own-sps-on-uk-racing?post_id=560433765#560433765The Dealerdon't think the firms have played for years the oncourse books would not play fair with themhope you are well when do you think we will be backregardsRonnie.Tue, 26 Jan 2021 14:08:17 -0600When we have on course bookmakers do you not think Hills, Lads, Corals manipulate the markets daily DD ?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31686837/are-hills-now-doing-their-own-sps-on-uk-racing?post_id=560433723#560433723When we have on course bookmakers do you not think Hills, Lads, Corals manipulate the markets daily DD ?Tue, 26 Jan 2021 14:02:59 -0600Not one that is under THE SP.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31686837/are-hills-now-doing-their-own-sps-on-uk-racing?post_id=560433715#560433715Not one that is under THE SP.Tue, 26 Jan 2021 14:00:32 -0600Surely the way to do it whilst there aren't course bookmakers is for each of the big 4/5/6 to submit prices for every horse to a central computer at the off allowing for a maximum over round of say 115%. The average price is then the SP.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31686837/are-hills-now-doing-their-own-sps-on-uk-racing?post_id=560433683#560433683Surely the way to do it whilst there aren't course bookmakers is for each of the big 4/5/6 to submit prices for every horse to a central computer at the off allowing for a maximum over round of say 115%. The average price is then the SP.Tue, 26 Jan 2021 13:53:51 -0600Whats a fair representation of the market during covid ?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31686837/are-hills-now-doing-their-own-sps-on-uk-racing?post_id=560433529#560433529Whats a fair representation of the market during covid ?Tue, 26 Jan 2021 13:24:20 -0600This is the most important thread on here.I had no idea this was going on and I suspect 99.99% of punters will also have been in the dark. You can't have two SP's. The SP is supposed to be a fair representation of the market. From the above William Hhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31686837/are-hills-now-doing-their-own-sps-on-uk-racing?post_id=560433431#560433431This is the most important thread on here.I had no idea this was going on and I suspect 99.99% of punters will also have been in the dark. You can't have two SP's. The SP is supposed to be a fair representation of the market. From the above William HTue, 26 Jan 2021 13:15:29 -0600@TheGoddess -- how has this been resolved?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31686837/are-hills-now-doing-their-own-sps-on-uk-racing?post_id=560433287#560433287@TheGoddess -- how has this been resolved?Tue, 26 Jan 2021 12:53:50 -0600