New Posts For Thread: Phil Bull documentary 1982https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31660639/phil-bull-documentary-1982This recently got put up on You Tube, made by Granada in 1982. I remembered something having been made, but never got to see it before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQlrMkugnWYThanks here too.I remember Jim ( If you go racing as often as I do you would know, and I go every day ) McGrath whineing with some resentment that he had worked for him at Timeform and been rebuked for putting in a comment about a horse - "Loves thehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31660639/phil-bull-documentary-1982?post_id=560619331#560619331Thanks here too.I remember Jim ( If you go racing as often as I do you would know, and I go every day ) McGrath whineing with some resentment that he had worked for him at Timeform and been rebuked for putting in a comment about a horse - "Loves theMon, 08 Mar 2021 08:58:31 -0600Excellent documentary thx, not seen it before. Didn't know much about Bull other than the Timeform connection; he talked a lot of sense and was clearly a visionary for change. Phi lBull impressed me as much as Bird disappointed in the documentary I shttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31660639/phil-bull-documentary-1982?post_id=560619305#560619305Excellent documentary thx, not seen it before. Didn't know much about Bull other than the Timeform connection; he talked a lot of sense and was clearly a visionary for change. Phi lBull impressed me as much as Bird disappointed in the documentary I sMon, 08 Mar 2021 08:52:41 -0600John Francome with hair like Sideshow Bob at the time Alun!I have fond memories of Remainder Man hosing up in the Free Handicap, bet in to 7/2 from 13/2, then running very well in all the big races thereafter, at good prices. Reg Hollinshead. Trainhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31660639/phil-bull-documentary-1982?post_id=560618895#560618895John Francome with hair like Sideshow Bob at the time Alun!I have fond memories of Remainder Man hosing up in the Free Handicap, bet in to 7/2 from 13/2, then running very well in all the big races thereafter, at good prices. Reg Hollinshead. TrainMon, 08 Mar 2021 07:07:59 -0600The funny thing about Timeform's innovation of a centralized, "free" handicap, and the Jockey Club's copying of it in 1973, is that the advantage for punters came from ignoring it, rather than following it.Giving a horse a rating of 70 on the basis ohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31660639/phil-bull-documentary-1982?post_id=560618811#560618811The funny thing about Timeform's innovation of a centralized, "free" handicap, and the Jockey Club's copying of it in 1973, is that the advantage for punters came from ignoring it, rather than following it.Giving a horse a rating of 70 on the basis oMon, 08 Mar 2021 06:36:30 -0600Enjoyed that documentary. Only now seeing it for the first time. I don't suppose anyone can point me in the direction of that famous 'Sportsnight' programme in the mid-70s all about John Banks? Would love to see that again !https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31660639/phil-bull-documentary-1982?post_id=560617953#560617953Enjoyed that documentary. Only now seeing it for the first time. I don't suppose anyone can point me in the direction of that famous 'Sportsnight' programme in the mid-70s all about John Banks? Would love to see that again !Sun, 07 Mar 2021 17:45:33 -0600*past few yearshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31660639/phil-bull-documentary-1982?post_id=559775819#559775819*past few yearsSun, 30 Aug 2020 06:16:51 -0500A number of years ago I wouldn't have agreed about your view on handicaps brigust but these pat few years my records are telling me a different story. They are telling me I do far better on American racing which has hardly any handicaps.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31660639/phil-bull-documentary-1982?post_id=559775817#559775817A number of years ago I wouldn't have agreed about your view on handicaps brigust but these pat few years my records are telling me a different story. They are telling me I do far better on American racing which has hardly any handicaps.Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:15:55 -0500People like them. And collectively punters are going to lose big money whatever racing takes place.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31660639/phil-bull-documentary-1982?post_id=559775777#559775777People like them. And collectively punters are going to lose big money whatever racing takes place.Sun, 30 Aug 2020 05:44:51 -0500I think as far as punting is concerned handicapping is a failure and should be abolished. Believe me I have spent many many long hours studying handicaps but there are too many anomalies to succeed. They are great for bookmakers, many of whom used tohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31660639/phil-bull-documentary-1982?post_id=559775597#559775597I think as far as punting is concerned handicapping is a failure and should be abolished. Believe me I have spent many many long hours studying handicaps but there are too many anomalies to succeed. They are great for bookmakers, many of whom used toSun, 30 Aug 2020 04:11:54 -0500Actually, centralisation of handicaps is not the only point, important though it is. Timeform was also a running free handicap. Free handicaps (ie abstract ratings not confined to the circumstances of a particular race) existed but their publicationhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31660639/phil-bull-documentary-1982?post_id=559770671#559770671Actually, centralisation of handicaps is not the only point, important though it is. Timeform was also a running free handicap. Free handicaps (ie abstract ratings not confined to the circumstances of a particular race) existed but their publicationSat, 29 Aug 2020 05:17:29 -0500