New Posts For Thread: De sousahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31629797/de-sousaRidden to sleepDriver2 i don’t bet odds on , don’t put enough on to make it worth it, just trying to make the point imho, that given the same conditions, Dettori would’ve rode Bangkok differently to De Sousa and maybe it would’ve made a difference and maybehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31629797/de-sousa?post_id=558893589#558893589Driver2 i don’t bet odds on , don’t put enough on to make it worth it, just trying to make the point imho, that given the same conditions, Dettori would’ve rode Bangkok differently to De Sousa and maybe it would’ve made a difference and maybeTue, 25 Feb 2020 08:11:56 -0600I still think that Bangkok could still be top class but he clearly has an issue with de Sousa. He sweated up and never really travelled like he did in his previous race.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31629797/de-sousa?post_id=558888841#558888841I still think that Bangkok could still be top class but he clearly has an issue with de Sousa. He sweated up and never really travelled like he did in his previous race.Mon, 24 Feb 2020 02:41:45 -0600Sorry Dave, misunderstood the postings, it was charbar67 that I should have taken issue with and he's obviously talking through his pockethttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31629797/de-sousa?post_id=558888681#558888681Sorry Dave, misunderstood the postings, it was charbar67 that I should have taken issue with and he's obviously talking through his pocketSun, 23 Feb 2020 21:19:51 -0600dave1357 and if you swapped the jockeys what would have happened?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31629797/de-sousa?post_id=558888677#558888677dave1357 and if you swapped the jockeys what would have happened?Sun, 23 Feb 2020 21:12:58 -0600the fact bangkok couldn't even beat court house tells you how good the horse is . i think the winner is very good and may play a part in a big race this year . bangkok isn't gonna win anything major based on that racehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31629797/de-sousa?post_id=558884885#558884885the fact bangkok couldn't even beat court house tells you how good the horse is . i think the winner is very good and may play a part in a big race this year . bangkok isn't gonna win anything major based on that raceSun, 23 Feb 2020 06:26:34 -0600utter nonsense. I watched the race again to check my initial impression. DeSousa was aware of the slow pace and took closer order and then asked his mount to quicken at almost the same time as Dettori and the horse didn't quicken like the winner.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31629797/de-sousa?post_id=558884841#558884841utter nonsense. I watched the race again to check my initial impression. DeSousa was aware of the slow pace and took closer order and then asked his mount to quicken at almost the same time as Dettori and the horse didn't quicken like the winner.Sun, 23 Feb 2020 06:15:26 -0600if you swapped the jockeys i'd say it would have been closer. same horse would have won but not by such a margin. ergo dettori > de sousa. that balding horse is awfully overrated though so he's not beating that horse over that distance on that surfachttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31629797/de-sousa?post_id=558884793#558884793if you swapped the jockeys i'd say it would have been closer. same horse would have won but not by such a margin. ergo dettori > de sousa. that balding horse is awfully overrated though so he's not beating that horse over that distance on that surfacSun, 23 Feb 2020 05:59:45 -0600Swap the jockeys, same result???? The assumption being that Dettori given the same situation would ride the same impotent, reactive ridehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31629797/de-sousa?post_id=558884739#558884739Swap the jockeys, same result???? The assumption being that Dettori given the same situation would ride the same impotent, reactive rideSun, 23 Feb 2020 05:47:51 -0600Exactly. He beat Court House easily last time.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31629797/de-sousa?post_id=558884593#558884593Exactly. He beat Court House easily last time.Sun, 23 Feb 2020 04:41:09 -0600No one is disputing the result - the best horse won. Nevertheless, Bangkok could not even beat Court House for 2nd, a horse he beat by an easy 4l the previous time - that says a lot about his run, surely. I hope Bangkok could be a bit more competitivhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31629797/de-sousa?post_id=558884503#558884503No one is disputing the result - the best horse won. Nevertheless, Bangkok could not even beat Court House for 2nd, a horse he beat by an easy 4l the previous time - that says a lot about his run, surely. I hope Bangkok could be a bit more competitivSun, 23 Feb 2020 03:58:37 -0600