New Posts For Thread: Enable 4-5...I am laying for plenty anybody else?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31587773/enable-4-5i-am-laying-for-plenty-anybody-elseLets face it lads she would not even have Won last Year if Sea Of Class had not been given far to much to do by Doyle.....And with a few improving Colts getting weight I can see her getting beat........Something is gonna do her.The riding of Dettori did not lose Enable an Arc - it did not win it either; the heavy going and draw certainly did not help. However, I think a different tactic employed by Dettori would have enabled Enable lasting out the trip better on heavy grounhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31587773/enable-4-5i-am-laying-for-plenty-anybody-else?post_id=558111915#558111915The riding of Dettori did not lose Enable an Arc - it did not win it either; the heavy going and draw certainly did not help. However, I think a different tactic employed by Dettori would have enabled Enable lasting out the trip better on heavy grounThu, 10 Oct 2019 10:20:40 -0500dettori never had a plan b, he didnt adjust to the fact aiden o'brien ran magical as a pace maker, could of been one those great arcs with a close finish,hes a great jockey, so wouldnt really place blame on the way he rode enable, yes he rode the horhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31587773/enable-4-5i-am-laying-for-plenty-anybody-else?post_id=558111709#558111709dettori never had a plan b, he didnt adjust to the fact aiden o'brien ran magical as a pace maker, could of been one those great arcs with a close finish,hes a great jockey, so wouldnt really place blame on the way he rode enable, yes he rode the horThu, 10 Oct 2019 09:45:04 -0500Acey called it right. He said the ground was a huge negative and I think he was right.On good ground the result would have been different.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31587773/enable-4-5i-am-laying-for-plenty-anybody-else?post_id=558111393#558111393Acey called it right. He said the ground was a huge negative and I think he was right.On good ground the result would have been different.Thu, 10 Oct 2019 08:58:17 -0500Dr Crippen • October 8, 2019 10:30 AM BSTThe pace certainly caught Dettori out.If a lesser jockey had given a fancied horse a ride like that knowing how he tied up last year, he'd find he wouldn't be riding many fancied horses again for a long timehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31587773/enable-4-5i-am-laying-for-plenty-anybody-else?post_id=558111345#558111345Dr Crippen • October 8, 2019 10:30 AM BSTThe pace certainly caught Dettori out.If a lesser jockey had given a fancied horse a ride like that knowing how he tied up last year, he'd find he wouldn't be riding many fancied horses again for a long timeThu, 10 Oct 2019 08:50:31 -0500Don't know why people are criticising Frankie, rode virtually the same race as when successful previous 2 years, the 3rd/4th horses didn't close on him until Frankie eased off when Waldgeist went past, btn by a better horse on the day. Why do peoplehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31587773/enable-4-5i-am-laying-for-plenty-anybody-else?post_id=558103433#558103433Don't know why people are criticising Frankie, rode virtually the same race as when successful previous 2 years, the 3rd/4th horses didn't close on him until Frankie eased off when Waldgeist went past, btn by a better horse on the day. Why do peopleWed, 09 Oct 2019 03:35:39 -0500You can talk,...you 'laid' Enable!Dettori (with hindsight) ought to have held on to Enable a wee-bit longer given last year. Maybe he ought not to have rushed Enable to take up a decent position so early in the race from a disadvantaged draw too. Nohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31587773/enable-4-5i-am-laying-for-plenty-anybody-else?post_id=558102271#558102271You can talk,...you 'laid' Enable!Dettori (with hindsight) ought to have held on to Enable a wee-bit longer given last year. Maybe he ought not to have rushed Enable to take up a decent position so early in the race from a disadvantaged draw too. NoTue, 08 Oct 2019 16:28:06 -0500I think some people are being far to hard on Frankie he knows Enable like the back of his hand...The ride looked good to me and i certainly would not be complaining if I had backed it.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31587773/enable-4-5i-am-laying-for-plenty-anybody-else?post_id=558101639#558101639I think some people are being far to hard on Frankie he knows Enable like the back of his hand...The ride looked good to me and i certainly would not be complaining if I had backed it.Tue, 08 Oct 2019 15:05:20 -0500Dettori shouldn't feel too bad about it, even Piggott lost an Ark through a poor ride.He was a cert on Nijinsky but still managed to get it beat.These top jockeys aren't the legends they're made out to be.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31587773/enable-4-5i-am-laying-for-plenty-anybody-else?post_id=558101443#558101443Dettori shouldn't feel too bad about it, even Piggott lost an Ark through a poor ride.He was a cert on Nijinsky but still managed to get it beat.These top jockeys aren't the legends they're made out to be.Tue, 08 Oct 2019 14:35:22 -0500You don't always get the ground your horse prefers ...on that ground the other day (whether it was soft / heavy is irrelevant)The best horse won on Sunday .. it doesn't detract what Enable has achieved in terms of Gp1 wins and the esteem of the raceshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31587773/enable-4-5i-am-laying-for-plenty-anybody-else?post_id=558101009#558101009You don't always get the ground your horse prefers ...on that ground the other day (whether it was soft / heavy is irrelevant)The best horse won on Sunday .. it doesn't detract what Enable has achieved in terms of Gp1 wins and the esteem of the racesTue, 08 Oct 2019 13:37:09 -0500I do not think Japan fancied heavy going (neither Sottsass) as much as Waldgeist otherwise he'd have been the winner - Waldgeist came from further back than Japan. The ground certainly was a major factor in the defeat of Enable; the draw too; Dettorihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31587773/enable-4-5i-am-laying-for-plenty-anybody-else?post_id=558100851#558100851I do not think Japan fancied heavy going (neither Sottsass) as much as Waldgeist otherwise he'd have been the winner - Waldgeist came from further back than Japan. The ground certainly was a major factor in the defeat of Enable; the draw too; DettoriTue, 08 Oct 2019 13:09:12 -0500