New Posts For Thread: SEA OF CLASS - BOTTOM-Rated - and by 34 Lbs - on Racing Post 'SPEED figures'https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31441269/sea-of-class---bottom-rated---and-by-34-lbs---on-racing-post-speed-figures'Says it all' - about so-called 'Speed Ratings'.You never here a murmur from the Speed Figure followers when a GOOD FAV - but with a BAD 'Speed Figure' - BOLTS INYet they try to claim - and always cry - when a top-rated does crawl past the post in frI only use speed figures and ive backed loads of winners that are bottom rated...... by looking at the pedigree of the horsehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31441269/sea-of-class---bottom-rated---and-by-34-lbs---on-racing-post-speed-figures?post_id=555367217#555367217I only use speed figures and ive backed loads of winners that are bottom rated...... by looking at the pedigree of the horseFri, 24 Aug 2018 04:04:03 -0500Speed figures are surely just part of the jigsaw - as far as Sea Of Class is concerned she had only run FOUR times - far too early to be making too many assumptions .....https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31441269/sea-of-class---bottom-rated---and-by-34-lbs---on-racing-post-speed-figures?post_id=555367211#555367211Speed figures are surely just part of the jigsaw - as far as Sea Of Class is concerned she had only run FOUR times - far too early to be making too many assumptions .....Fri, 24 Aug 2018 04:02:43 -0500york (Rail movements: R1 & 2 +43y, R6 +36y) newmarket (Rail movements: R4 & 5 +21y) goodwood (Rail movements: R2, 3 & 6 +10y, R5 +13y) ffos las (Rail movements: R1, 2, 5, 6 & 7 +9y) thats just today and how can the courses calculate accurately rail mhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31441269/sea-of-class---bottom-rated---and-by-34-lbs---on-racing-post-speed-figures?post_id=555367167#555367167york (Rail movements: R1 & 2 +43y, R6 +36y) newmarket (Rail movements: R4 & 5 +21y) goodwood (Rail movements: R2, 3 & 6 +10y, R5 +13y) ffos las (Rail movements: R1, 2, 5, 6 & 7 +9y) thats just today and how can the courses calculate accurately rail mFri, 24 Aug 2018 03:41:18 -0500As someone that took there own sectionals for years on the turf I can safely say using speed figures over 12f is fraught with danger due to the amount of slowly run races there are. This season I stopped taking sectionals on the turf (wasn't making ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31441269/sea-of-class---bottom-rated---and-by-34-lbs---on-racing-post-speed-figures?post_id=555367159#555367159As someone that took there own sectionals for years on the turf I can safely say using speed figures over 12f is fraught with danger due to the amount of slowly run races there are. This season I stopped taking sectionals on the turf (wasn't making iFri, 24 Aug 2018 03:38:03 -0500high class race*https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31441269/sea-of-class---bottom-rated---and-by-34-lbs---on-racing-post-speed-figures?post_id=555367131#555367131high class race*Fri, 24 Aug 2018 03:13:32 -0500six..........if an horse is a hold up horse running in 5 slow run races how do expect it to get a high speed figure..........you then have got to decide whether you think its capable of running an high figure.......I go to pedigree and this occasionhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31441269/sea-of-class---bottom-rated---and-by-34-lbs---on-racing-post-speed-figures?post_id=555367129#555367129six..........if an horse is a hold up horse running in 5 slow run races how do expect it to get a high speed figure..........you then have got to decide whether you think its capable of running an high figure.......I go to pedigree and this occasionFri, 24 Aug 2018 03:12:12 -0500Onlooker - I like it, it is a neat term to use when folks think you are disagreeing with them, when in fact there is no difference between the two positions. It's conciliatory and non confrontational but you retain your position. sixtwosix - it is nohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31441269/sea-of-class---bottom-rated---and-by-34-lbs---on-racing-post-speed-figures?post_id=555365149#555365149Onlooker - I like it, it is a neat term to use when folks think you are disagreeing with them, when in fact there is no difference between the two positions. It's conciliatory and non confrontational but you retain your position. sixtwosix - it is noThu, 23 Aug 2018 15:45:26 -0500Shows what a load of hokum speed figures are if a quality Irish Oaks winner is 34 pounds inferior to anything other than Pegasus ..........https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31441269/sea-of-class---bottom-rated---and-by-34-lbs---on-racing-post-speed-figures?post_id=555364967#555364967Shows what a load of hokum speed figures are if a quality Irish Oaks winner is 34 pounds inferior to anything other than Pegasus ..........Thu, 23 Aug 2018 15:30:22 -0500blackbarn 23 Aug 18 21:10 Wonders - I am in violent agreement______________I would never have had you down as being, "violent," - blackbarn.All my illusions are being shattered.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31441269/sea-of-class---bottom-rated---and-by-34-lbs---on-racing-post-speed-figures?post_id=555364941#555364941blackbarn 23 Aug 18 21:10 Wonders - I am in violent agreement______________I would never have had you down as being, "violent," - blackbarn.All my illusions are being shattered.Thu, 23 Aug 2018 15:28:34 -0500A ha - I printed my York Racecards from RP last night. Shows Oberyn M at 98. Celebrity Dancer and Kodyanna at 97 AND Red Balloons at 91. A lesson here of course is that these are updated overnight. I did know this, but did my bets last night as I wahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31441269/sea-of-class---bottom-rated---and-by-34-lbs---on-racing-post-speed-figures?post_id=555364901#555364901A ha - I printed my York Racecards from RP last night. Shows Oberyn M at 98. Celebrity Dancer and Kodyanna at 97 AND Red Balloons at 91. A lesson here of course is that these are updated overnight. I did know this, but did my bets last night as I waThu, 23 Aug 2018 15:25:47 -0500