New Posts For Thread: BHA Clamping down on bookmakers using Rule 4 to shorten non-runners priceshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31427123/bha-clamping-down-on-bookmakers-using-rule-4-to-shorten-non-runners-pricesFrom the Racing post:Bookmakers may find their rules on non-runners forcibly changed by the Gambling Commission if they do not heed the lessons learned from the controversial Black Dave case.The commission found that Ladbrokes had deliberately shorteA classic Simon Clare statement: "The episode came to light only because Ladbrokes (his employer) brought the issue to the BHA's attention."Really? Ladbrokes brought the issue to the BHA to try and "screw" the trainer of Black Dave ie Dave Evans eg thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31427123/bha-clamping-down-on-bookmakers-using-rule-4-to-shorten-non-runners-prices?post_id=554941403#554941403A classic Simon Clare statement: "The episode came to light only because Ladbrokes (his employer) brought the issue to the BHA's attention."Really? Ladbrokes brought the issue to the BHA to try and "screw" the trainer of Black Dave ie Dave Evans eg tThu, 05 Jul 2018 02:50:15 -0500Could start with rule 4 being commensurate with odds instead of all being in favour of punter, ie, evens deduction 45phttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31427123/bha-clamping-down-on-bookmakers-using-rule-4-to-shorten-non-runners-prices?post_id=554941385#554941385Could start with rule 4 being commensurate with odds instead of all being in favour of punter, ie, evens deduction 45pThu, 05 Jul 2018 02:44:08 -0500Could start with rule 4 being commensurate with odds instead of all being in favour of punter, ie, evens deduction 45phttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31427123/bha-clamping-down-on-bookmakers-using-rule-4-to-shorten-non-runners-prices?post_id=554941383#554941383Could start with rule 4 being commensurate with odds instead of all being in favour of punter, ie, evens deduction 45pThu, 05 Jul 2018 02:44:06 -0500scaredmoney 04 Jul 18 23:08 taken 3 years to decide their gunna do jack sh1t about itMore like a hundred years. Well I've been betting since the early 1960s and it happened on a regular basis then.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31427123/bha-clamping-down-on-bookmakers-using-rule-4-to-shorten-non-runners-prices?post_id=554941251#554941251scaredmoney 04 Jul 18 23:08 taken 3 years to decide their gunna do jack sh1t about itMore like a hundred years. Well I've been betting since the early 1960s and it happened on a regular basis then.Thu, 05 Jul 2018 00:17:12 -0500the gambling commission knew that Ladbrokes dont take any bets so no punters were affected financiallyhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31427123/bha-clamping-down-on-bookmakers-using-rule-4-to-shorten-non-runners-prices?post_id=554940825#554940825the gambling commission knew that Ladbrokes dont take any bets so no punters were affected financiallyWed, 04 Jul 2018 17:56:18 -0500Without a doubt.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31427123/bha-clamping-down-on-bookmakers-using-rule-4-to-shorten-non-runners-prices?post_id=554940735#554940735Without a doubt.Wed, 04 Jul 2018 17:33:31 -0500DP,As this was a clearcut case, I think it tells you everything about the GC's ability to meet it's fair and open objective and to protect consumers. The GC license includes a condition:Social responsibility code provision 4.1.1 Fair terms All licenchttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31427123/bha-clamping-down-on-bookmakers-using-rule-4-to-shorten-non-runners-prices?post_id=554940721#554940721DP,As this was a clearcut case, I think it tells you everything about the GC's ability to meet it's fair and open objective and to protect consumers. The GC license includes a condition:Social responsibility code provision 4.1.1 Fair terms All licencWed, 04 Jul 2018 17:31:06 -0500I've posted this before Betbright shortening an Alan Swinbank horse the day after his death to 7/2 from 7/1/13/2 general was a fcuking disgrace and nothing was said.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31427123/bha-clamping-down-on-bookmakers-using-rule-4-to-shorten-non-runners-prices?post_id=554940657#554940657I've posted this before Betbright shortening an Alan Swinbank horse the day after his death to 7/2 from 7/1/13/2 general was a fcuking disgrace and nothing was said.Wed, 04 Jul 2018 17:14:01 -0500I particularly enjoyed the GC statement that they would be concerned "if there was evidence that bookmakers had deliberately shortened the odds of known or likely non-runners in order to maximise rule 4 deductions for their own commercial gain to thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31427123/bha-clamping-down-on-bookmakers-using-rule-4-to-shorten-non-runners-prices?post_id=554940643#554940643I particularly enjoyed the GC statement that they would be concerned "if there was evidence that bookmakers had deliberately shortened the odds of known or likely non-runners in order to maximise rule 4 deductions for their own commercial gain to thWed, 04 Jul 2018 17:11:10 -0500Are they going to clamp down on shortening horses without taking any bets?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31427123/bha-clamping-down-on-bookmakers-using-rule-4-to-shorten-non-runners-prices?post_id=554940639#554940639Are they going to clamp down on shortening horses without taking any bets?Wed, 04 Jul 2018 17:09:51 -0500