New Posts For Thread: crystal ocean back or layhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31422517/crystal-ocean-back-or-laycould be a muddling race with no front runnerFancy the fav to ground them into submission. Last ten winners were all four year olds, so that's a major plus.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31422517/crystal-ocean-back-or-lay?post_id=554833015#554833015Fancy the fav to ground them into submission. Last ten winners were all four year olds, so that's a major plus.Sat, 23 Jun 2018 03:27:53 -0500Thanks Roy.Cracksman surprised quite a few, but as Frankie said, he's not the same horse. It wouldn't surprise me if there's something amiss (with the horse, not Frankie ) and we've seen the last of him, but I was always of the opinion Enable would bhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31422517/crystal-ocean-back-or-lay?post_id=554832865#554832865Thanks Roy.Cracksman surprised quite a few, but as Frankie said, he's not the same horse. It wouldn't surprise me if there's something amiss (with the horse, not Frankie ) and we've seen the last of him, but I was always of the opinion Enable would bSat, 23 Jun 2018 02:15:55 -0500Good morning Andrew. It may just be that I am suffering from "Post Cracksman Syndrome!" Very best of luck today and keep up the good work!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31422517/crystal-ocean-back-or-lay?post_id=554832853#554832853Good morning Andrew. It may just be that I am suffering from "Post Cracksman Syndrome!" Very best of luck today and keep up the good work!Sat, 23 Jun 2018 02:04:14 -0500Roy,Correct, he nearly was beaten by Fabricate, but it was his first run of the season whereas the other was race fit, and it was an inadequate trip as you pointed out. He stayed on really well that day, i thought he was beaten at the furlong marker.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31422517/crystal-ocean-back-or-lay?post_id=554832829#554832829Roy,Correct, he nearly was beaten by Fabricate, but it was his first run of the season whereas the other was race fit, and it was an inadequate trip as you pointed out. He stayed on really well that day, i thought he was beaten at the furlong marker.Sat, 23 Jun 2018 01:48:14 -0500I really do think the favourite is vulnerable here. Just got a feeling that something will nail it for speed. Looking at overall form I actually favour the two that fought out the finish to last year's event.I simply can't forget how close the favourhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31422517/crystal-ocean-back-or-lay?post_id=554832765#554832765I really do think the favourite is vulnerable here. Just got a feeling that something will nail it for speed. Looking at overall form I actually favour the two that fought out the finish to last year's event.I simply can't forget how close the favourSat, 23 Jun 2018 01:19:04 -0500Way to Short in my book, yes clearly has an obvious chance but he's no 1/2 shot for me. i can find better odds on shots then that. Thought Barsanti could be a real threat to the Jolly plus His Form is working out. Currently a no play race for me....https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31422517/crystal-ocean-back-or-lay?post_id=554832737#554832737Way to Short in my book, yes clearly has an obvious chance but he's no 1/2 shot for me. i can find better odds on shots then that. Thought Barsanti could be a real threat to the Jolly plus His Form is working out. Currently a no play race for me....Sat, 23 Jun 2018 00:40:10 -0500Idaho and Barsanti were 1st and 2nd in this race last year, but i think the placings will be reversed. It's not a particularly strong field (favourite apart) and we all know they run from off the pace, so I suspect CoM will set slow frsctions to makehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31422517/crystal-ocean-back-or-lay?post_id=554832723#554832723Idaho and Barsanti were 1st and 2nd in this race last year, but i think the placings will be reversed. It's not a particularly strong field (favourite apart) and we all know they run from off the pace, so I suspect CoM will set slow frsctions to makeSat, 23 Jun 2018 00:16:37 -05003 runs in 5/6 runner fields all with moore up - 3 winsbut, did seem to pull a bit at last years RA. ground prob not 100% right for him. betting should be somewhat of a guide. Moher beaten pointless by a stoute horse and they'll know ocean and poets chttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31422517/crystal-ocean-back-or-lay?post_id=554832009#5548320093 runs in 5/6 runner fields all with moore up - 3 winsbut, did seem to pull a bit at last years RA. ground prob not 100% right for him. betting should be somewhat of a guide. Moher beaten pointless by a stoute horse and they'll know ocean and poets cFri, 22 Jun 2018 17:53:05 -0500he front run in a race at York in which ulysees beat Churchill so its possible...............its awful to think a derby 2nd as a pacemakerhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31422517/crystal-ocean-back-or-lay?post_id=554831577#554831577he front run in a race at York in which ulysees beat Churchill so its possible...............its awful to think a derby 2nd as a pacemakerFri, 22 Jun 2018 16:16:34 -0500thought about a small bet on Idaho against the fav.............the ground he will like but I think he needs a strong pace and unless cliffs of moher makes the running it could turn into a farce.....https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31422517/crystal-ocean-back-or-lay?post_id=554831551#554831551thought about a small bet on Idaho against the fav.............the ground he will like but I think he needs a strong pace and unless cliffs of moher makes the running it could turn into a farce.....Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:11:43 -0500