New Posts For Thread: In Running tradinghttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30964183/in-running-tradingDoes anyone know why people still trade on horse that has been withdrawn just before the off.Salmon ,as an example , in flat races when a horse doesn't go into the stalls, there is no time for betfair to withdraw a horse and form a new market , so they leave the horse there, but just switch the cross matcher off ( i think )this is where thehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30964183/in-running-trading?post_id=553153393#553153393Salmon ,as an example , in flat races when a horse doesn't go into the stalls, there is no time for betfair to withdraw a horse and form a new market , so they leave the horse there, but just switch the cross matcher off ( i think )this is where theWed, 29 Nov 2017 06:51:08 -0600In GB don't Bf form a new market too quickly for that to happen ?As I've said I've seen it done in the US but that's because they don't watch it as closely as I thought they did in GB racing.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30964183/in-running-trading?post_id=553153283#553153283In GB don't Bf form a new market too quickly for that to happen ?As I've said I've seen it done in the US but that's because they don't watch it as closely as I thought they did in GB racing.Wed, 29 Nov 2017 06:11:37 -0600Back a withdrawn horse into 1.01 and mess up the over-roundi think that's the whole idea of it.plus , when a horse is withdrawn so close to the off, i think betfair turn of the crossmatcherhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30964183/in-running-trading?post_id=553153243#553153243Back a withdrawn horse into 1.01 and mess up the over-roundi think that's the whole idea of it.plus , when a horse is withdrawn so close to the off, i think betfair turn of the crossmatcherWed, 29 Nov 2017 05:58:12 -0600In the US Bf don't always twig that a horse has been withdrawn for some time. Those of us who are watching ATR/LV/some other stream DO know and that is when there is an attempt to rig the reduction factor,and perhaps to confuse the bots though I'm nohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30964183/in-running-trading?post_id=553153137#553153137In the US Bf don't always twig that a horse has been withdrawn for some time. Those of us who are watching ATR/LV/some other stream DO know and that is when there is an attempt to rig the reduction factor,and perhaps to confuse the bots though I'm noWed, 29 Nov 2017 05:04:27 -0600I always thought it would be an easy way to mess up the bots, especially when they haven't got time to form a new market. Back a withdrawn horse into 1.01 and mess up the over-round.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30964183/in-running-trading?post_id=553153095#553153095I always thought it would be an easy way to mess up the bots, especially when they haven't got time to form a new market. Back a withdrawn horse into 1.01 and mess up the over-round.Wed, 29 Nov 2017 04:53:26 -0600In the US I've seen horses go to 1.10 from 4.0 after they have been withdrawn. I'm fairly certain it is a quite useless attempt to cheat as it doesn't appear to affect the reduction factor which is presumably what they are trying to do.I agree in GBhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30964183/in-running-trading?post_id=553152229#553152229In the US I've seen horses go to 1.10 from 4.0 after they have been withdrawn. I'm fairly certain it is a quite useless attempt to cheat as it doesn't appear to affect the reduction factor which is presumably what they are trying to do.I agree in GBTue, 28 Nov 2017 16:35:32 -0600how do people that have got bots that run on their own not get caught in these races?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30964183/in-running-trading?post_id=553152221#553152221how do people that have got bots that run on their own not get caught in these races?Tue, 28 Nov 2017 16:34:06 -0600Does anyone know why people still command their legions of bots to trade on horse that has been withdrawn just before the off.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30964183/in-running-trading?post_id=553152165#553152165Does anyone know why people still command their legions of bots to trade on horse that has been withdrawn just before the off.Tue, 28 Nov 2017 16:22:52 -0600Not just the bots, There are a few unsporting types who back said withdrawn horse right in so that the bots push out the odds of other horses.I'm informed that they do this for amusement only and wouldn't take advantage of a confused bot for Englishhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30964183/in-running-trading?post_id=553152159#553152159Not just the bots, There are a few unsporting types who back said withdrawn horse right in so that the bots push out the odds of other horses.I'm informed that they do this for amusement only and wouldn't take advantage of a confused bot for EnglishTue, 28 Nov 2017 16:22:04 -0600they dont the bots dohthhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30964183/in-running-trading?post_id=553152079#553152079they dont the bots dohthTue, 28 Nov 2017 16:07:22 -0600