New Posts For Thread: Stewards Newburyhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30929937/stewards-newburyget a grip james'mines is also only my opinion and i've been wrong many times before but i suppose if nothing else it shows even with a small group like this, how many different opinions there are on the running of one race.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30929937/stewards-newbury?post_id=552630235#552630235mines is also only my opinion and i've been wrong many times before but i suppose if nothing else it shows even with a small group like this, how many different opinions there are on the running of one race.Sun, 20 Aug 2017 10:27:01 -0500ss, i'm making the direct comparison regarding the will to win from the saddle being very different in these 2 rides, this wasnt win at all costs, imo, just normal competitive riding pushing the boundaries as much as possiblehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30929937/stewards-newbury?post_id=552629647#552629647ss, i'm making the direct comparison regarding the will to win from the saddle being very different in these 2 rides, this wasnt win at all costs, imo, just normal competitive riding pushing the boundaries as much as possibleSun, 20 Aug 2017 09:06:08 -0500Buick should have gone over to the rail on Ribchester but once he didn't and raced about half a horse's width off of it, Dettori on the rail wasn't entitled to try to barge his way through because there wasn't room to.There was room for Gordon to gohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30929937/stewards-newbury?post_id=552629627#552629627Buick should have gone over to the rail on Ribchester but once he didn't and raced about half a horse's width off of it, Dettori on the rail wasn't entitled to try to barge his way through because there wasn't room to.There was room for Gordon to goSun, 20 Aug 2017 09:00:09 -0500My reading of the Ribchester race was that Buick could have legitimately got the rail at one or two points so it's not the same.Obviously I want jockeys to try but I also don't want them riding to win at all costs. That mentality does seem to be growhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30929937/stewards-newbury?post_id=552629593#552629593My reading of the Ribchester race was that Buick could have legitimately got the rail at one or two points so it's not the same.Obviously I want jockeys to try but I also don't want them riding to win at all costs. That mentality does seem to be growSun, 20 Aug 2017 08:52:28 -0500if i've backed a horse i'd far rather the jock tries a bit too hard to win (in this case risking ban), if buick had ridden ribchester like this (holding the rail as his position allowed him to) he'd have won alsohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30929937/stewards-newbury?post_id=552629577#552629577if i've backed a horse i'd far rather the jock tries a bit too hard to win (in this case risking ban), if buick had ridden ribchester like this (holding the rail as his position allowed him to) he'd have won alsoSun, 20 Aug 2017 08:46:25 -0500I am pretty sure the second would have won. Just my opinion.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30929937/stewards-newbury?post_id=552629509#552629509I am pretty sure the second would have won. Just my opinion.Sun, 20 Aug 2017 08:32:01 -0500As the rules stand I'm not arguing it should have lost the race.You might be right that Atzeni was already moving over before he saw Gordon but it didn't stop him carrying on. Tbf it wasn't the most dangerous bit of riding I have seen and Atzeni isn'https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30929937/stewards-newbury?post_id=552629069#552629069As the rules stand I'm not arguing it should have lost the race.You might be right that Atzeni was already moving over before he saw Gordon but it didn't stop him carrying on. Tbf it wasn't the most dangerous bit of riding I have seen and Atzeni isn'Sun, 20 Aug 2017 06:38:57 -0500also adding that the fact he didnt get a ban was also correcthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30929937/stewards-newbury?post_id=552629043#552629043also adding that the fact he didnt get a ban was also correctSun, 20 Aug 2017 06:26:54 -0500he was already moving to the rail before he looked across, probably in surprise that she was coming up the inside. imo the outcome of the result and the stewards was right, under the present ruleshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30929937/stewards-newbury?post_id=552629037#552629037he was already moving to the rail before he looked across, probably in surprise that she was coming up the inside. imo the outcome of the result and the stewards was right, under the present rulesSun, 20 Aug 2017 06:25:43 -0500I THINK the best horse won but Atzeni didn't allow him to prove it as they way he rode would have been seen as cheating elsewhere. I also think the stewards ( and ITV ) misread by calling it careless. I agree with ima ( that's twice in a few days )thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30929937/stewards-newbury?post_id=552628999#552628999I THINK the best horse won but Atzeni didn't allow him to prove it as they way he rode would have been seen as cheating elsewhere. I also think the stewards ( and ITV ) misread by calling it careless. I agree with ima ( that's twice in a few days )tSun, 20 Aug 2017 06:11:09 -0500