New Posts For Thread: More bookie welching.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30846785/more-bookie-welchinghttp://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/authors/the-judge/punters-fury-after-bookies-refuse-10186793You do realise don't you dave1357 that threads can evolve and not always have to stick rigidly to the initial opening point made?Assuming you are not on a wind up, I've mentioned the word "competition" several times in the thread so am fully aware thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30846785/more-bookie-welching?post_id=551634023#551634023You do realise don't you dave1357 that threads can evolve and not always have to stick rigidly to the initial opening point made?Assuming you are not on a wind up, I've mentioned the word "competition" several times in the thread so am fully aware thMon, 10 Apr 2017 16:12:14 -0500There is a ridiculous amount of paranoia regarding some books as some do whatever they can to not pay out if they think they can get away with it. There have been countless threads on here where Freds haven't paid a punter, yet when court is threatenhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30846785/more-bookie-welching?post_id=551633989#551633989There is a ridiculous amount of paranoia regarding some books as some do whatever they can to not pay out if they think they can get away with it. There have been countless threads on here where Freds haven't paid a punter, yet when court is threatenMon, 10 Apr 2017 16:09:03 -0500The competition and a bet with Sky Bet operate under different terms and conditions and therefore the Sky Bet implications on the account are largely irrelevant for this issue imo.The competition terms state pretty clearly that any evidence of one pehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30846785/more-bookie-welching?post_id=551633441#551633441The competition and a bet with Sky Bet operate under different terms and conditions and therefore the Sky Bet implications on the account are largely irrelevant for this issue imo.The competition terms state pretty clearly that any evidence of one peMon, 10 Apr 2017 15:20:45 -0500They can't say they don't allow multiple users of that IP address whenever someone wins, yet at the very same time keep any losses from multiple users of that same IP address. Isn't that a case of wanting the best of both worlds? There aren't any loshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30846785/more-bookie-welching?post_id=551632167#551632167They can't say they don't allow multiple users of that IP address whenever someone wins, yet at the very same time keep any losses from multiple users of that same IP address. Isn't that a case of wanting the best of both worlds? There aren't any losMon, 10 Apr 2017 13:14:42 -0500Yeah I understand what you are saying (although don't agree that my previous point that IP issues only arise after a big win, is irrelevant) but the point being made is if they are avoiding paying out with this competition on the basis of more than ohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30846785/more-bookie-welching?post_id=551632103#551632103Yeah I understand what you are saying (although don't agree that my previous point that IP issues only arise after a big win, is irrelevant) but the point being made is if they are avoiding paying out with this competition on the basis of more than oMon, 10 Apr 2017 13:06:49 -0500Skybet 100% correct in my opinion.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30846785/more-bookie-welching?post_id=551632071#551632071Skybet 100% correct in my opinion.Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:58:41 -0500What I find a little odd though is these shared IP issues only ever arise when somebody has a decent win, which makes me wonder are bookies aware if it from the beginning but are happy to monitor accounts and then conveniently disregard their own rulhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30846785/more-bookie-welching?post_id=551631975#551631975What I find a little odd though is these shared IP issues only ever arise when somebody has a decent win, which makes me wonder are bookies aware if it from the beginning but are happy to monitor accounts and then conveniently disregard their own rulMon, 10 Apr 2017 12:44:37 -0500Good point ima_mazed66No chance of Skybet refusing bets from a problem gambler because of IP issues.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30846785/more-bookie-welching?post_id=551631749#551631749Good point ima_mazed66No chance of Skybet refusing bets from a problem gambler because of IP issues.Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:13:24 -0500Arbers aren't doing anything fraudulent though and I've never really understood what the bookies' problem is with doing so and again surely only bonus abuse is the same person claiming the bonus multiple times, as opposed to more than one person doinhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30846785/more-bookie-welching?post_id=551631677#551631677Arbers aren't doing anything fraudulent though and I've never really understood what the bookies' problem is with doing so and again surely only bonus abuse is the same person claiming the bonus multiple times, as opposed to more than one person doinMon, 10 Apr 2017 12:04:04 -0500I would imagine these would be suspected arbers/bonus abusers? There is also the possibility that someone in the house is a problem gambler or cheats at poker. Perhaps but in that case, Skybet should have noticed that before she won and simply declihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30846785/more-bookie-welching?post_id=551631639#551631639I would imagine these would be suspected arbers/bonus abusers? There is also the possibility that someone in the house is a problem gambler or cheats at poker. Perhaps but in that case, Skybet should have noticed that before she won and simply decliMon, 10 Apr 2017 12:00:11 -0500