New Posts For Thread: Churchill disappoints on the clock.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30741293/churchill-disappoints-on-the-clockO'Brien senior is sweeping all before him at the moment but the clock suggests the 2000 gns is no gimme for Churchill.The time picture on the Rowley course is complicated by a perceived time bias to races of 1m 1f plus. I estimate the firm ground outVitavox sorry but I have to totally disagree with what you have said. My speed ratings make Churchills performance by far the best of the first 4 races on the card. Its actually the second best speed rating on my figures by a 2yo this season (top washttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30741293/churchill-disappoints-on-the-clock?post_id=550140895#550140895Vitavox sorry but I have to totally disagree with what you have said. My speed ratings make Churchills performance by far the best of the first 4 races on the card. Its actually the second best speed rating on my figures by a 2yo this season (top wasTue, 11 Oct 2016 09:12:47 -0500frankel canford cliffs sussex stakes ,1/1 bet of the century.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30741293/churchill-disappoints-on-the-clock?post_id=550139925#550139925frankel canford cliffs sussex stakes ,1/1 bet of the century.Tue, 11 Oct 2016 07:47:12 -0500*apologies with Camelot, of course was out earlier in season for maiden in ireland 3 months before RPT win at donny.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30741293/churchill-disappoints-on-the-clock?post_id=550138119#550138119*apologies with Camelot, of course was out earlier in season for maiden in ireland 3 months before RPT win at donny.Tue, 11 Oct 2016 04:29:51 -0500That's a fair point recently, i suppose. Plenty been put away early, Hannon's winner returned the following season and Camelot hadn't been out yet but perhaps it is trending as you say.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30741293/churchill-disappoints-on-the-clock?post_id=550138095#550138095That's a fair point recently, i suppose. Plenty been put away early, Hannon's winner returned the following season and Camelot hadn't been out yet but perhaps it is trending as you say.Tue, 11 Oct 2016 04:21:05 -0500unknown horses dont really appear for the guineas these days do they? race comes too early in the season. churchill is a fair bet imo,,, defo wouldnt be laying 2/1https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30741293/churchill-disappoints-on-the-clock?post_id=550138027#550138027unknown horses dont really appear for the guineas these days do they? race comes too early in the season. churchill is a fair bet imo,,, defo wouldnt be laying 2/1Tue, 11 Oct 2016 04:14:32 -0500As for Frankel deadbrain I'd like to know what you made of it's guineas and SJP runs on your clock ratings, the early speed in the guineas was ridiculous for the trip and the fractions in the SJP when taking up the running so early suggested to me ihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30741293/churchill-disappoints-on-the-clock?post_id=550138021#550138021As for Frankel deadbrain I'd like to know what you made of it's guineas and SJP runs on your clock ratings, the early speed in the guineas was ridiculous for the trip and the fractions in the SJP when taking up the running so early suggested to me iTue, 11 Oct 2016 04:14:27 -0500I thought this horse though having had plenty of experience has looked a bit of a big baby that has every chance of developing up in trip as a 3yo unlike so many of the 'speedy' 2yo's that never go on as 3yo's.The race the other day it did not have ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30741293/churchill-disappoints-on-the-clock?post_id=550137995#550137995I thought this horse though having had plenty of experience has looked a bit of a big baby that has every chance of developing up in trip as a 3yo unlike so many of the 'speedy' 2yo's that never go on as 3yo's.The race the other day it did not have aTue, 11 Oct 2016 04:11:00 -0500If you're 67 NAP is what you have in the afternoon. 40 winks.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30741293/churchill-disappoints-on-the-clock?post_id=550137931#550137931If you're 67 NAP is what you have in the afternoon. 40 winks.Tue, 11 Oct 2016 04:01:34 -0500i apply weight handicapping to g1 races,churchill is 6lbs well in ,on the day take best price, frankel never gave weight away,in all its races.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30741293/churchill-disappoints-on-the-clock?post_id=550137907#550137907i apply weight handicapping to g1 races,churchill is 6lbs well in ,on the day take best price, frankel never gave weight away,in all its races.Tue, 11 Oct 2016 03:56:15 -0500Andrew - I use to be a regular at Hove Dogs and a big punter back then. (I even went to the trials on Mondays to catch a glimpse of the new intake and dogs returning from injury.) Quite a few of the bigger players use to bet on 'make up', and not timhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30741293/churchill-disappoints-on-the-clock?post_id=550137109#550137109Andrew - I use to be a regular at Hove Dogs and a big punter back then. (I even went to the trials on Mondays to catch a glimpse of the new intake and dogs returning from injury.) Quite a few of the bigger players use to bet on 'make up', and not timMon, 10 Oct 2016 23:44:12 -0500