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							<channel><title>New Posts For Thread: Roullette machines in bookies</title><link>https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30617995/roullette-machines-in-bookies</link><description>Are they fruit machines or genuine roulette machines ? I was convinced the were just like fruit machines which pay out about 60% of what they take in but a mate of mine is convinced it's a genuine roulette machine were you can win thousands.</description><item><title>would love to see that, its a fair 1.01 it wont though</title><link>https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30617995/roullette-machines-in-bookies?post_id=546898037#546898037</link><description>would love to see that, its a fair 1.01 it wont though</description><pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2015 05:59:44 -0600</pubDate></item><item><title>^^^it's the same to the extent that it's simply impossible to win long term on ether "version".Machines should have a warning to this effect on them."Playing this machine could damage your wealth" should suffice</title><link>https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30617995/roullette-machines-in-bookies?post_id=546898013#546898013</link><description>^^^it's the same to the extent that it's simply impossible to win long term on ether "version".Machines should have a warning to this effect on them."Playing this machine could damage your wealth" should suffice</description><pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2015 05:56:56 -0600</pubDate></item><item><title>a good point was made earlier, in real roulette the ball can land on any number, in fobt roulette the number is predetermined by a random number generator, not quite the same imo</title><link>https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30617995/roullette-machines-in-bookies?post_id=546897973#546897973</link><description>a good point was made earlier, in real roulette the ball can land on any number, in fobt roulette the number is predetermined by a random number generator, not quite the same imo</description><pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2015 05:51:50 -0600</pubDate></item><item><title>I agree with dave, no point in fixing owt as the long term profit is built in just like the real game. I suppose some kind of algorithm is required to replace men actually spinning the wheel.</title><link>https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30617995/roullette-machines-in-bookies?post_id=546897879#546897879</link><description>I agree with dave, no point in fixing owt as the long term profit is built in just like the real game. I suppose some kind of algorithm is required to replace men actually spinning the wheel.</description><pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2015 05:39:06 -0600</pubDate></item><item><title>what?  The "house advantage" is in the structure of the game, it doesn't require any deviation from randomness.  (btw I don't know or care how fobts work just stating a fact about roulette)</title><link>https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30617995/roullette-machines-in-bookies?post_id=546897867#546897867</link><description>what?  The "house advantage" is in the structure of the game, it doesn't require any deviation from randomness.  (btw I don't know or care how fobts work just stating a fact about roulette)</description><pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2015 05:34:41 -0600</pubDate></item><item><title>Never played 'em myself - but played real roulette in my younger days.As dukeofpuke quite rightly says the house edge on "real roulette" is 2.70271 ...and I beleive the FOBT roulette machines are supposed to mimic this house advantage via a programme</title><link>https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30617995/roullette-machines-in-bookies?post_id=546897331#546897331</link><description>Never played 'em myself - but played real roulette in my younger days.As dukeofpuke quite rightly says the house edge on "real roulette" is 2.70271 ...and I beleive the FOBT roulette machines are supposed to mimic this house advantage via a programme</description><pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2015 04:04:32 -0600</pubDate></item><item><title>Cambridge boyz invented a gadjet to load it without putting money in..brainy yes . . . but they didnt think about laddies camras</title><link>https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30617995/roullette-machines-in-bookies?post_id=546890381#546890381</link><description>Cambridge boyz invented a gadjet to load it without putting money in..brainy yes . . . but they didnt think about laddies camras</description><pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2015 12:37:52 -0600</pubDate></item><item><title>If you have seen this you'll know what I'm talking about, and if you haven't you probably will think I'm typing a lot of rubbish, but there used to be a way of winning on roulette because the programmers left open a "back door" where one number would</title><link>https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30617995/roullette-machines-in-bookies?post_id=546889987#546889987</link><description>If you have seen this you'll know what I'm talking about, and if you haven't you probably will think I'm typing a lot of rubbish, but there used to be a way of winning on roulette because the programmers left open a "back door" where one number would</description><pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2015 12:10:15 -0600</pubDate></item><item><title>nope. cannot be random if the algorithm has to factor in a house advantage :)</title><link>https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30617995/roullette-machines-in-bookies?post_id=546889019#546889019</link><description>nope. cannot be random if the algorithm has to factor in a house advantage :)</description><pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:54:31 -0600</pubDate></item><item><title>So what's the answer to duncs question?Is it the real roulette take or is it a random take depending on which numbers you pick?Bondy you seem to know a lot about them, what is your view?</title><link>https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30617995/roullette-machines-in-bookies?post_id=546888117#546888117</link><description>So what's the answer to duncs question?Is it the real roulette take or is it a random take depending on which numbers you pick?Bondy you seem to know a lot about them, what is your view?</description><pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:47:30 -0600</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
