New Posts For Thread: Tom Segal asks/says - was American Pharoah 'given a gimme'.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30613033/tom-segal-askssays---was-american-pharoah-given-a-gimmeTom Segal - from the WEEKENDER, page 5 ...'Even American Pharoah's success at Keeneland was weird.Both in the Belmont and the Classic, no jockey has had the balls to put the champion under any pressure at any stage.Basically he's been handed both racIt was a bit of a rant that included, but wasn't limited to, the horse had only run 3 times on turf, hadn't run on turf for 3 years and hadn't run anywhere for 16 months.He effectively called for horses with that profile to be banned from running inhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30613033/tom-segal-askssays---was-american-pharoah-given-a-gimme?post_id=546791453#546791453It was a bit of a rant that included, but wasn't limited to, the horse had only run 3 times on turf, hadn't run on turf for 3 years and hadn't run anywhere for 16 months.He effectively called for horses with that profile to be banned from running inTue, 10 Nov 2015 07:54:50 -0600what was his reaction to litigant?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30613033/tom-segal-askssays---was-american-pharoah-given-a-gimme?post_id=546791149#546791149what was his reaction to litigant?Tue, 10 Nov 2015 07:31:34 -0600I'm afraid we're definitely in the sour grapes zone with Tom these days. His reaction to Litigant winning the Ebor was nothing short of a disgrace.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30613033/tom-segal-askssays---was-american-pharoah-given-a-gimme?post_id=546790755#546790755I'm afraid we're definitely in the sour grapes zone with Tom these days. His reaction to Litigant winning the Ebor was nothing short of a disgrace.Tue, 10 Nov 2015 06:48:29 -0600Tom has been awful but this season hugh t gary o brien andy holding ged egan all had fab seasons why ?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30613033/tom-segal-askssays---was-american-pharoah-given-a-gimme?post_id=546790045#546790045Tom has been awful but this season hugh t gary o brien andy holding ged egan all had fab seasons why ?Tue, 10 Nov 2015 04:20:09 -0600Sir tom has, by his own admission, had a terrible flat season.So have manywhen this happens you tend to start looking for reasonswhy your old certainties are no longer relevantThis is why segal has zeroed in on American Pharoahtrying to understand sohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30613033/tom-segal-askssays---was-american-pharoah-given-a-gimme?post_id=546786275#546786275Sir tom has, by his own admission, had a terrible flat season.So have manywhen this happens you tend to start looking for reasonswhy your old certainties are no longer relevantThis is why segal has zeroed in on American Pharoahtrying to understand soMon, 09 Nov 2015 14:39:02 -0600Handle for US racing up to the end of October $9,274,266,245 Prizemoney up to the end of October $951,205,410https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30613033/tom-segal-askssays---was-american-pharoah-given-a-gimme?post_id=546786083#546786083Handle for US racing up to the end of October $9,274,266,245 Prizemoney up to the end of October $951,205,410Mon, 09 Nov 2015 14:14:27 -0600I think its fair to say the TV coverage never remotely conveyed a true reflection of the atmosphere.Chris Smith November 4, 2015If nothing else, the Breeders’ Cup Classic did one significant thing for me on Saturday – it dispelled one of the grehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30613033/tom-segal-askssays---was-american-pharoah-given-a-gimme?post_id=546785497#546785497I think its fair to say the TV coverage never remotely conveyed a true reflection of the atmosphere.Chris Smith November 4, 2015If nothing else, the Breeders’ Cup Classic did one significant thing for me on Saturday – it dispelled one of the greMon, 09 Nov 2015 13:10:21 -0600Ha , i would never say such a thing onlooker , i agree with most of what has been said ,yes he is very good BUT , and am sorry there is a but ,and segal was just pointing that out , for me haven watched recent belmonts , you can not argue or even hahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30613033/tom-segal-askssays---was-american-pharoah-given-a-gimme?post_id=546784405#546784405Ha , i would never say such a thing onlooker , i agree with most of what has been said ,yes he is very good BUT , and am sorry there is a but ,and segal was just pointing that out , for me haven watched recent belmonts , you can not argue or even haMon, 09 Nov 2015 11:01:29 -0600He is clearly head and shoulders above the other dirt performers this year.But he has kept his form amazingly well throughout a long season at the top.In the Classic he beat the same old faces plus a European champ who did not go a yard on dirt .....https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30613033/tom-segal-askssays---was-american-pharoah-given-a-gimme?post_id=546783927#546783927He is clearly head and shoulders above the other dirt performers this year.But he has kept his form amazingly well throughout a long season at the top.In the Classic he beat the same old faces plus a European champ who did not go a yard on dirt .....Mon, 09 Nov 2015 10:16:37 -0600over the years i covered a few and never was paid .. ok a few drinks couple of nights outhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30613033/tom-segal-askssays---was-american-pharoah-given-a-gimme?post_id=546783257#546783257over the years i covered a few and never was paid .. ok a few drinks couple of nights outMon, 09 Nov 2015 09:29:15 -0600