New Posts For Thread: Do racehorses warmup properly?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30554623/do-racehorses-warmup-properlyI was at a trotting meeting & was surprised how vigarous a warm up they do before a race, half the track full speed then walk & they repeat this 3 or 4 times with horses in a real sweat. All athletes do full warm ups, should racehorses do more?I'd say the breed has certainly been weakened by in-breeding, and by the commercial 'necessity' of getting the 'best' off to stud at the end of their 3yo careers when they are still immature, and have always received weight when racing against maturehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30554623/do-racehorses-warmup-properly?post_id=545612167#545612167I'd say the breed has certainly been weakened by in-breeding, and by the commercial 'necessity' of getting the 'best' off to stud at the end of their 3yo careers when they are still immature, and have always received weight when racing against matureThu, 23 Jul 2015 04:45:07 -0500OK, what does the panel think aboutInterval TrainingandTraining Uphill?I'm a believer.I still think that thoroughbreds have been seriously weakened by in-breeding and bad training methods. That "cotton-wool" approach is total bo llix, imo.Several havhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30554623/do-racehorses-warmup-properly?post_id=545611961#545611961OK, what does the panel think aboutInterval TrainingandTraining Uphill?I'm a believer.I still think that thoroughbreds have been seriously weakened by in-breeding and bad training methods. That "cotton-wool" approach is total bo llix, imo.Several havThu, 23 Jul 2015 03:50:01 -0500I think the could be an opportunity for a Martin Pipe II who will revolutionize this area with solid science. Although I posed the inital question, I do remember Lochsong bolting to the start in front of me before the Nunthorpe when a short price fahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30554623/do-racehorses-warmup-properly?post_id=545606463#545606463I think the could be an opportunity for a Martin Pipe II who will revolutionize this area with solid science. Although I posed the inital question, I do remember Lochsong bolting to the start in front of me before the Nunthorpe when a short price faWed, 22 Jul 2015 13:31:11 -0500most horses are walked around the pre parade ring for half an hour or more before being taken to the saddling box, and then after saddling they are led into the parade ring for another walk around. after leaving the parade ring, they have a canter tohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30554623/do-racehorses-warmup-properly?post_id=545606005#545606005most horses are walked around the pre parade ring for half an hour or more before being taken to the saddling box, and then after saddling they are led into the parade ring for another walk around. after leaving the parade ring, they have a canter toWed, 22 Jul 2015 12:52:09 -0500It is rare that you get a really interesting intelligent question on here but this certainly is one. You cannot help thinking that there is a Martin Pipe II out there somewhere who will revolutionize this area with solid science.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30554623/do-racehorses-warmup-properly?post_id=545603123#545603123It is rare that you get a really interesting intelligent question on here but this certainly is one. You cannot help thinking that there is a Martin Pipe II out there somewhere who will revolutionize this area with solid science.Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:48:58 -0500A lot of NH trainers only have a maximum of a mile gallop-some less than that- and then expect the horse to run in a 2 mile bumper. It has always baffled me. It is a mental as well as a physical issue and explains why many bumper horses stop to a walhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30554623/do-racehorses-warmup-properly?post_id=545602753#545602753A lot of NH trainers only have a maximum of a mile gallop-some less than that- and then expect the horse to run in a 2 mile bumper. It has always baffled me. It is a mental as well as a physical issue and explains why many bumper horses stop to a walWed, 22 Jul 2015 08:10:06 -0500Sage - amazed that horses would not run their race distance in training even at considerably less than race pace, obviously they'd never go anywhere near full speed except at much shorter distances. Sounds like tempo runs are probably used in equinehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30554623/do-racehorses-warmup-properly?post_id=545602597#545602597Sage - amazed that horses would not run their race distance in training even at considerably less than race pace, obviously they'd never go anywhere near full speed except at much shorter distances. Sounds like tempo runs are probably used in equineWed, 22 Jul 2015 07:55:39 -0500It is a good question. I know a bit about athletics and when I had horses in training I often asked trainers why they didn't do any over distance training (farther than the race distance) at home. They all said that horses would not stand long distanhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30554623/do-racehorses-warmup-properly?post_id=545602465#545602465It is a good question. I know a bit about athletics and when I had horses in training I often asked trainers why they didn't do any over distance training (farther than the race distance) at home. They all said that horses would not stand long distanWed, 22 Jul 2015 07:47:04 -0500Interesting stuff!Thanks for all the replies.I still think thoroughbreds have been weakened by in-breeding and wrong training methods. I'd be interested in the stats for injuries, pu, early-retirement etc that compared nowadays in UK and forty yearshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30554623/do-racehorses-warmup-properly?post_id=545600677#545600677Interesting stuff!Thanks for all the replies.I still think thoroughbreds have been weakened by in-breeding and wrong training methods. I'd be interested in the stats for injuries, pu, early-retirement etc that compared nowadays in UK and forty yearsWed, 22 Jul 2015 03:06:30 -0500A horse will be walked 30-45 minutes before they enter the parade ring where they will walk a further 15 mins before the jockey is legged up...then of course they canter 5-8f down to the start....by the time they get there they should be 'warmed up'.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30554623/do-racehorses-warmup-properly?post_id=545596667#545596667A horse will be walked 30-45 minutes before they enter the parade ring where they will walk a further 15 mins before the jockey is legged up...then of course they canter 5-8f down to the start....by the time they get there they should be 'warmed up'.Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:55:57 -0500