New Posts For Thread: ANOTHER FIXED RACE AT AYR THERE 4.05https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30543629/another-fixed-race-at-ayr-there-405We all know it. Why don't the BHA start sorting the situation out?@Barton Bank -- That's one way of looking at it. Another would be that connections of the rest of the field knew full well that it was likely to lead or race prominently yet chose to allow it an easy lead regardless.Of course they knew -- he'd triedhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30543629/another-fixed-race-at-ayr-there-405?post_id=545420953#545420953@Barton Bank -- That's one way of looking at it. Another would be that connections of the rest of the field knew full well that it was likely to lead or race prominently yet chose to allow it an easy lead regardless.Of course they knew -- he'd triedTue, 07 Jul 2015 02:42:16 -0500Taking the material they get to deal with into account I have the former down as competent and the latter as mediocre.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30543629/another-fixed-race-at-ayr-there-405?post_id=545419333#545419333Taking the material they get to deal with into account I have the former down as competent and the latter as mediocre.Mon, 06 Jul 2015 18:06:48 -0500With regard to your last point BB, I would like to know how bad is Robin Dickin ex-trainer of The Absent Mare (given away for 4K), or how bad is Willie Musson ex-trainer of Broughtons Bandit (given away for 2K). Elliot won with both of them quite eahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30543629/another-fixed-race-at-ayr-there-405?post_id=545418459#545418459With regard to your last point BB, I would like to know how bad is Robin Dickin ex-trainer of The Absent Mare (given away for 4K), or how bad is Willie Musson ex-trainer of Broughtons Bandit (given away for 2K). Elliot won with both of them quite eaMon, 06 Jul 2015 16:36:05 -0500It's a fair point and similar question could and should be asked about Gordon Elliott's runners at Perth, many of whom win on the back of seemingly terrible performances in similar grade at gaffs like Tramore and Downpatrick.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30543629/another-fixed-race-at-ayr-there-405?post_id=545415537#545415537It's a fair point and similar question could and should be asked about Gordon Elliott's runners at Perth, many of whom win on the back of seemingly terrible performances in similar grade at gaffs like Tramore and Downpatrick.Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:04:21 -0500I would be more interested in who is the Greengrocer who provides this particular Irish trainer with his carrots - whenever his horses travel over to Scotland.3 well-backed Winners and a fast-finishing 2nd, from 4 runners at Ayr, in the past two dayhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30543629/another-fixed-race-at-ayr-there-405?post_id=545415521#545415521I would be more interested in who is the Greengrocer who provides this particular Irish trainer with his carrots - whenever his horses travel over to Scotland.3 well-backed Winners and a fast-finishing 2nd, from 4 runners at Ayr, in the past two dayMon, 06 Jul 2015 13:02:09 -0500They don't need to pay them all out, do they. Just back the winner, that's enough for them.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30543629/another-fixed-race-at-ayr-there-405?post_id=545415341#545415341They don't need to pay them all out, do they. Just back the winner, that's enough for them.Mon, 06 Jul 2015 12:49:15 -0500Another would be that connections of the rest of the field knew full well that it was likely to lead or race prominently yet chose to allow it an easy lead regardlesshow much do you think winning connections paid out to all the losing connections ?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30543629/another-fixed-race-at-ayr-there-405?post_id=545415301#545415301Another would be that connections of the rest of the field knew full well that it was likely to lead or race prominently yet chose to allow it an easy lead regardlesshow much do you think winning connections paid out to all the losing connections ?Mon, 06 Jul 2015 12:45:46 -0500Small fields are one of the biggest integrity issues facing the sport. Again this is a problem which the BHA is at leazt partly responsible for.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30543629/another-fixed-race-at-ayr-there-405?post_id=545415245#545415245Small fields are one of the biggest integrity issues facing the sport. Again this is a problem which the BHA is at leazt partly responsible for.Mon, 06 Jul 2015 12:37:10 -0500You only need am edge 2 or 3 non buzzers and a lot in your favour and stay away from races with less than 6 runnerswith a few certain jockeys riding.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30543629/another-fixed-race-at-ayr-there-405?post_id=545415215#545415215You only need am edge 2 or 3 non buzzers and a lot in your favour and stay away from races with less than 6 runnerswith a few certain jockeys riding.Mon, 06 Jul 2015 12:32:40 -0500That's one way of looking at it. Another would be that connections of the rest of the field knew full well that it was likely to lead or race prominently yet chose to allow it an easy lead regardless. I find it hard to believe that a Sligo claimer, ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30543629/another-fixed-race-at-ayr-there-405?post_id=545415103#545415103That's one way of looking at it. Another would be that connections of the rest of the field knew full well that it was likely to lead or race prominently yet chose to allow it an easy lead regardless. I find it hard to believe that a Sligo claimer, aMon, 06 Jul 2015 12:21:30 -0500