New Posts For Thread: Kirtling - one for the old timershttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30532291/kirtling---one-for-the-old-timersWasn't that a Wragg filly who was runner-up to Marwell as a 2yo?Thanks Blackbarn and ged.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30532291/kirtling---one-for-the-old-timers?post_id=545272781#545272781Thanks Blackbarn and ged.Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:46:29 -0500David is the great nephew of Sir Edmund Loder.Edmund was the nephew of Giles Harold Loder (owned Derby winner Spion Kop).Giles Harold was the nephew of Major Eustace Loder, who bred and owned Pretty Polly.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30532291/kirtling---one-for-the-old-timers?post_id=545263371#545263371David is the great nephew of Sir Edmund Loder.Edmund was the nephew of Giles Harold Loder (owned Derby winner Spion Kop).Giles Harold was the nephew of Major Eustace Loder, who bred and owned Pretty Polly.Thu, 25 Jun 2015 04:24:38 -0500Re the Loders - David Loder (Trainer) is the son of Simon Loder (Gardener Clapton Court Somerset) not Edmund Loder, although he is related to the latter. The confusion may in part be due to the similarity of the Racing colours. Sir Edmund's being thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30532291/kirtling---one-for-the-old-timers?post_id=545263201#545263201Re the Loders - David Loder (Trainer) is the son of Simon Loder (Gardener Clapton Court Somerset) not Edmund Loder, although he is related to the latter. The confusion may in part be due to the similarity of the Racing colours. Sir Edmund's being tThu, 25 Jun 2015 03:48:57 -0500habin67 24 Jun 15 22:46 Remember Dragon Dancer for Wragg being 2nd in Sir Percy's Derby was the highest rated Maiden for ages (did it ever win?)-----------Dragon Dancer was STILL a MAIDEN when it was beaten in a PHOTO for the 2006 Derby - being ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30532291/kirtling---one-for-the-old-timers?post_id=545260709#545260709habin67 24 Jun 15 22:46 Remember Dragon Dancer for Wragg being 2nd in Sir Percy's Derby was the highest rated Maiden for ages (did it ever win?)-----------Dragon Dancer was STILL a MAIDEN when it was beaten in a PHOTO for the 2006 Derby - being aWed, 24 Jun 2015 17:25:08 -0500Yes Habin. Won a Listed race at Windsor one evening. I think it was its sole win.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30532291/kirtling---one-for-the-old-timers?post_id=545260619#545260619Yes Habin. Won a Listed race at Windsor one evening. I think it was its sole win.Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:18:09 -0500Remember Dragon Dancer for Wragg being 2nd in Sir Percy's Derby was the highest rated Maiden for ages (did it ever win?)https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30532291/kirtling---one-for-the-old-timers?post_id=545260313#545260313Remember Dragon Dancer for Wragg being 2nd in Sir Percy's Derby was the highest rated Maiden for ages (did it ever win?)Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:46:17 -0500I think Sir Edmund Loder had Trojan Crown and Persian Anthem with Wragg. David Loder is Sir Edmund's son I think.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30532291/kirtling---one-for-the-old-timers?post_id=545259989#545259989I think Sir Edmund Loder had Trojan Crown and Persian Anthem with Wragg. David Loder is Sir Edmund's son I think.Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:19:06 -0500Lord Seymour ran in the Loder silks for Stoute, was fancied for the Middle Park that Known Fact won, and had been a bit over hyped - in the end Stoute had a better 2 year old that year in Final Straw, in the James Wigan colourshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30532291/kirtling---one-for-the-old-timers?post_id=545259963#545259963Lord Seymour ran in the Loder silks for Stoute, was fancied for the Middle Park that Known Fact won, and had been a bit over hyped - in the end Stoute had a better 2 year old that year in Final Straw, in the James Wigan coloursWed, 24 Jun 2015 16:16:09 -0500And of course Edmund Loder's Marling.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30532291/kirtling---one-for-the-old-timers?post_id=545259851#545259851And of course Edmund Loder's Marling.Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:05:19 -0500Cassandra Go & Owington were two group winners for Geoff that didn't sport the colours of the usual suspects.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30532291/kirtling---one-for-the-old-timers?post_id=545259843#545259843Cassandra Go & Owington were two group winners for Geoff that didn't sport the colours of the usual suspects.Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:04:29 -0500