New Posts For Thread: is all weather racing fixed ?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30444955/is-all-weather-racing-fixedhaving followed the all weather this season am becoming more convinced unfair play is happening on the all weather horses drifting alarmingly jockeys not trying is it really worth risking your hard earned for this?There are also marked differences between sires progeny on different surfaces. For example - the 18 sires with the most runners, albeit only 295, on the new Tapeta surface, with no winners yet, have 48 places, a place strike rate of 16.27% Their combhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30444955/is-all-weather-racing-fixed?post_id=543727127#543727127There are also marked differences between sires progeny on different surfaces. For example - the 18 sires with the most runners, albeit only 295, on the new Tapeta surface, with no winners yet, have 48 places, a place strike rate of 16.27% Their combFri, 27 Feb 2015 06:35:15 -0600Spot on.Not to mention the bookmakers and their fake gambles pushing no hoper prices in so the mugs will followhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30444955/is-all-weather-racing-fixed?post_id=543722029#543722029Spot on.Not to mention the bookmakers and their fake gambles pushing no hoper prices in so the mugs will followThu, 26 Feb 2015 18:03:27 -0600Captain Christy You only have to look at the amount of unplaced favouritesI have kept stats on placed favourites or joint-favourites for quite a while. Chelmsford - 59 races - 33 placed (55.93%)Kempton - 1,776 races - 1,140 placed (64.19%)Lingfieldhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30444955/is-all-weather-racing-fixed?post_id=543720537#543720537Captain Christy You only have to look at the amount of unplaced favouritesI have kept stats on placed favourites or joint-favourites for quite a while. Chelmsford - 59 races - 33 placed (55.93%)Kempton - 1,776 races - 1,140 placed (64.19%)LingfieldThu, 26 Feb 2015 15:59:46 -0600There must've been 6/7 maiden races this week already with short priced favs that had all run in desperately slow races and the majority of them have all been beaten!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30444955/is-all-weather-racing-fixed?post_id=543708417#543708417There must've been 6/7 maiden races this week already with short priced favs that had all run in desperately slow races and the majority of them have all been beaten!Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:54:08 -0600The mistake a lot of punters make on the aw is using ratings literally with no proven decent speedfigures on surfaces there are numerous examples through the season where horses can even win 2 or 3 races by winning falsely run races giving inflated mhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30444955/is-all-weather-racing-fixed?post_id=543708293#543708293The mistake a lot of punters make on the aw is using ratings literally with no proven decent speedfigures on surfaces there are numerous examples through the season where horses can even win 2 or 3 races by winning falsely run races giving inflated mWed, 25 Feb 2015 17:44:07 -0600TheFear's 18:35 post describes the situation perfectly imo. And it's got nothing to do with the surface or the prize money either. When you consider that one retired Flat jockey who was widely admired for his expert judgement of pace and of the besthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30444955/is-all-weather-racing-fixed?post_id=543708031#543708031TheFear's 18:35 post describes the situation perfectly imo. And it's got nothing to do with the surface or the prize money either. When you consider that one retired Flat jockey who was widely admired for his expert judgement of pace and of the bestWed, 25 Feb 2015 17:25:39 -0600TheFear's 18:35 post describes the situation perfectly imo. And it's got nothing to do with the surface or the prize money either. When you consider that one retired Flat jockey who was widely admired for his expert judgement of pace and of the besthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30444955/is-all-weather-racing-fixed?post_id=543708029#543708029TheFear's 18:35 post describes the situation perfectly imo. And it's got nothing to do with the surface or the prize money either. When you consider that one retired Flat jockey who was widely admired for his expert judgement of pace and of the bestWed, 25 Feb 2015 17:25:39 -0600In slowly run races then the result is far more open to variance as the slower horses now have more chance of winning from factors other than race pace, most AW races (exc Southwell) would appear to be slow, slow, slow.....two furlong dash for the lihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30444955/is-all-weather-racing-fixed?post_id=543707849#543707849In slowly run races then the result is far more open to variance as the slower horses now have more chance of winning from factors other than race pace, most AW races (exc Southwell) would appear to be slow, slow, slow.....two furlong dash for the liWed, 25 Feb 2015 17:05:35 -0600I just think as a punter it's easier to lay Flat, AW and NH. If you can't find 3-4 useless/ready for the knackers yard nags on a miserable Tuesday afto at Fontwell then try something else. Most of the horses on show are total crap. Does it always worhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30444955/is-all-weather-racing-fixed?post_id=543706511#543706511I just think as a punter it's easier to lay Flat, AW and NH. If you can't find 3-4 useless/ready for the knackers yard nags on a miserable Tuesday afto at Fontwell then try something else. Most of the horses on show are total crap. Does it always worWed, 25 Feb 2015 15:55:15 -060070% of owners lose money owning horses fact. thats the problem some owners find hard to accept its the greed of connections what spoil the game some have the mindset that they can turn to the exchanges to pay for the training fees which is wrong ownihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30444955/is-all-weather-racing-fixed?post_id=543705633#54370563370% of owners lose money owning horses fact. thats the problem some owners find hard to accept its the greed of connections what spoil the game some have the mindset that they can turn to the exchanges to pay for the training fees which is wrong owniWed, 25 Feb 2015 15:25:57 -0600