New Posts For Thread: Chucked out?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30416259/chucked-out?Well, there's the rub...54.7 In deciding whether the Stewards are satisfied that the interference improved the placing of the horseSo, question... could the stewards be satisfied, but not sure?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30416259/chucked-out?post_id=543072013#543072013Well, there's the rub...54.7 In deciding whether the Stewards are satisfied that the interference improved the placing of the horseSo, question... could the stewards be satisfied, but not sure?Tue, 13 Jan 2015 06:56:22 -0600ged,The Stewards do not have to be "certain" the second would have won,merely on the balance of probability.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30416259/chucked-out?post_id=543071873#543071873ged,The Stewards do not have to be "certain" the second would have won,merely on the balance of probability.Tue, 13 Jan 2015 06:45:01 -0600I think in the Royal Gait case, even though there was minimal contact, it was all because Clark fell off, so the stewards felt they had to be seen to do something, so they blamed Asmussen and DQ'd him. In the Eclipse on Al Kazeem, Doyle imo did nothihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30416259/chucked-out?post_id=543071677#543071677I think in the Royal Gait case, even though there was minimal contact, it was all because Clark fell off, so the stewards felt they had to be seen to do something, so they blamed Asmussen and DQ'd him. In the Eclipse on Al Kazeem, Doyle imo did nothiTue, 13 Jan 2015 06:27:03 -0600I know it's hard to be detached, but I think it's irrelevant (to whether the piece of riding is judged 'dangerous', 'reckless', whatever) whether the jockey comes off or not, and irrelevant whether the horse falls or not. It's the action/manoeuvre thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30416259/chucked-out?post_id=543071431#543071431I know it's hard to be detached, but I think it's irrelevant (to whether the piece of riding is judged 'dangerous', 'reckless', whatever) whether the jockey comes off or not, and irrelevant whether the horse falls or not. It's the action/manoeuvre thTue, 13 Jan 2015 05:55:11 -0600ged, salmon spray checked one of his Timeform Annuals and apparently Asmussen was done for "reckless riding". I don't think that term now exists in the rules, but clearly like the present day "dangerous riding" rule would, it resulted in disqualificahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30416259/chucked-out?post_id=543070703#543070703ged, salmon spray checked one of his Timeform Annuals and apparently Asmussen was done for "reckless riding". I don't think that term now exists in the rules, but clearly like the present day "dangerous riding" rule would, it resulted in disqualificaTue, 13 Jan 2015 04:32:58 -0600Too simplistic, because winning distance isn't everything. If it was, Youmzain comes out a better horse than Sea The Stars.But you can argue the rules are 'wrong'. I think they are. I think the doubt should favour the sinned-against rather than the shttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30416259/chucked-out?post_id=543070605#543070605Too simplistic, because winning distance isn't everything. If it was, Youmzain comes out a better horse than Sea The Stars.But you can argue the rules are 'wrong'. I think they are. I think the doubt should favour the sinned-against rather than the sTue, 13 Jan 2015 04:25:18 -0600I think the important point to be made is that our rules are a joke.Ask two questions:A. How much distance did the interference cost the runner up?B. How far was he beaten?If you are convinced that A is greater than B then surely the result should behttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30416259/chucked-out?post_id=543070385#543070385I think the important point to be made is that our rules are a joke.Ask two questions:A. How much distance did the interference cost the runner up?B. How far was he beaten?If you are convinced that A is greater than B then surely the result should beTue, 13 Jan 2015 03:57:26 -0600George - I can't remember whether Cash got done for 'dangerous' - but if he did, he shouldn't have been. El Conquistador fell over mainly because he was a big gangly thing, and he was knackered having been sacrificed up front to make the pace for hishttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30416259/chucked-out?post_id=543070003#543070003George - I can't remember whether Cash got done for 'dangerous' - but if he did, he shouldn't have been. El Conquistador fell over mainly because he was a big gangly thing, and he was knackered having been sacrificed up front to make the pace for hisTue, 13 Jan 2015 02:47:18 -0600Who's Ken Morleyhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30416259/chucked-out?post_id=543067647#543067647Who's Ken MorleyMon, 12 Jan 2015 18:52:24 -0600I thought that this was a thread about Celebrity Big Brother & Ken Morley.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30416259/chucked-out?post_id=543067119#543067119I thought that this was a thread about Celebrity Big Brother & Ken Morley.Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:03:56 -0600