New Posts For Thread: Why was Frankel rated so much higher than Sea The Stars?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30371055/why-was-frankel-rated-so-much-higher-than-sea-the-starsJust curious to know how they rated one so inferior to the other..Foz I have always said I thought there was nothing between St Nic and Farhh over 10f. Similary I rate St Nic about the same horse as Cirrus des Aigles over 12f and Farhh and CDA the same horse over 10f. It seems to work out when you look through theihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30371055/why-was-frankel-rated-so-much-higher-than-sea-the-stars?post_id=542041365#542041365Foz I have always said I thought there was nothing between St Nic and Farhh over 10f. Similary I rate St Nic about the same horse as Cirrus des Aigles over 12f and Farhh and CDA the same horse over 10f. It seems to work out when you look through theiMon, 27 Oct 2014 09:23:52 -0500Foz you bring something up. I question it because it is silly and you criticise me ffs. Until St Nicholas Abbey met Frankel he ran twice over 10 furlongs and showed a clear requirement for further. Even in the race you brought up in Ireland won by Snhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30371055/why-was-frankel-rated-so-much-higher-than-sea-the-stars?post_id=542040783#542040783Foz you bring something up. I question it because it is silly and you criticise me ffs. Until St Nicholas Abbey met Frankel he ran twice over 10 furlongs and showed a clear requirement for further. Even in the race you brought up in Ireland won by SnMon, 27 Oct 2014 08:39:01 -0500brigust this is another argument that's been done over and over but none of the evidence says the Juddmonte was run at a slow pace. This is Simon Rowlands on the sectionals at the time.The beauty of Frankel's sectionals are more subtle. He did not evhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30371055/why-was-frankel-rated-so-much-higher-than-sea-the-stars?post_id=542040361#542040361brigust this is another argument that's been done over and over but none of the evidence says the Juddmonte was run at a slow pace. This is Simon Rowlands on the sectionals at the time.The beauty of Frankel's sectionals are more subtle. He did not evMon, 27 Oct 2014 07:57:46 -0500Ima thank goodness you put forward a good reasoned argument. I will deal with each point seperately.We may have to disagree about the pace in the Juddmonte because I think all of the evidence shows it was a slow pace. If you look at most races wherehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30371055/why-was-frankel-rated-so-much-higher-than-sea-the-stars?post_id=542040173#542040173Ima thank goodness you put forward a good reasoned argument. I will deal with each point seperately.We may have to disagree about the pace in the Juddmonte because I think all of the evidence shows it was a slow pace. If you look at most races whereMon, 27 Oct 2014 07:37:58 -0500Yep fantastic had the pleasure of taking my grand daughter who was only 8 months old, doubt she will remember it but I wont forget it!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30371055/why-was-frankel-rated-so-much-higher-than-sea-the-stars?post_id=542040163#542040163Yep fantastic had the pleasure of taking my grand daughter who was only 8 months old, doubt she will remember it but I wont forget it!Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:37:27 -0500I was there too, absolutely great day Geoff.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30371055/why-was-frankel-rated-so-much-higher-than-sea-the-stars?post_id=542040115#542040115I was there too, absolutely great day Geoff.Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:31:48 -0500The day STS won the Juddmonte every race was faster than the comparative times for Frankels Juddmonte day.I was there the day Frankel won the Juddmonte and there was a strong breeze blowing across the Knavesmire.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30371055/why-was-frankel-rated-so-much-higher-than-sea-the-stars?post_id=542040101#542040101The day STS won the Juddmonte every race was faster than the comparative times for Frankels Juddmonte day.I was there the day Frankel won the Juddmonte and there was a strong breeze blowing across the Knavesmire.Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:29:58 -0500208 replies and tens of thousands of words( most of em by Ima admittedly) over an imaginary race/argument between two horses who never and could never meet on the track.I think you need to get out more boys and girlshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30371055/why-was-frankel-rated-so-much-higher-than-sea-the-stars?post_id=542040071#542040071208 replies and tens of thousands of words( most of em by Ima admittedly) over an imaginary race/argument between two horses who never and could never meet on the track.I think you need to get out more boys and girlsMon, 27 Oct 2014 07:22:52 -0500No brigust1 I don't think considering it was Frankel's first try at 10f in the Juddmonte that Bullet Train would have set a fast pace and I have no problem agreeing with you there but the point is, BT could never get to the front to set that pace evehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30371055/why-was-frankel-rated-so-much-higher-than-sea-the-stars?post_id=542039925#542039925No brigust1 I don't think considering it was Frankel's first try at 10f in the Juddmonte that Bullet Train would have set a fast pace and I have no problem agreeing with you there but the point is, BT could never get to the front to set that pace eveMon, 27 Oct 2014 06:52:03 -0500Foz I was giving Frankel the benefit of the doubt because on the same ground he ran 10 lengths slower than Sea the Stars had in a 4 runner race on potentially the slowest part of the track. I prefer to think it was because the pace wasn't strong wherhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30371055/why-was-frankel-rated-so-much-higher-than-sea-the-stars?post_id=542027489#542027489Foz I was giving Frankel the benefit of the doubt because on the same ground he ran 10 lengths slower than Sea the Stars had in a 4 runner race on potentially the slowest part of the track. I prefer to think it was because the pace wasn't strong wherSun, 26 Oct 2014 11:05:18 -0500