New Posts For Thread: Predicting Starting Prices using data analytics and Machine Learninghttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30301087/predicting-starting-prices-using-data-analytics-and-machine-learningNot sure if this is the right place for this topic or not but have to start from somewhere, What are chances that Machine Learning and Mathematical modelling can be used to predict starting prices of a horse in a race using past data available publicRider, Do you mean money that comes in last 15 minutes may not have anything to do with form/current conditions and if I am sitting at home I will be at disadvantage as I will be an outsider? 90% of money comes in last 15-20 minutes so I was under thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30301087/predicting-starting-prices-using-data-analytics-and-machine-learning?post_id=540412619#540412619Rider, Do you mean money that comes in last 15 minutes may not have anything to do with form/current conditions and if I am sitting at home I will be at disadvantage as I will be an outsider? 90% of money comes in last 15-20 minutes so I was under thFri, 11 Jul 2014 04:11:19 -0500So this can be done in 2 ways, One is build logic and test it on daily basis and fine tune it till it becomes good enough to be profitable OR get as much data as possible using betfair APIs, timeform APIs or racingpost, build own DB and feed it to MLhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30301087/predicting-starting-prices-using-data-analytics-and-machine-learning?post_id=540412577#540412577So this can be done in 2 ways, One is build logic and test it on daily basis and fine tune it till it becomes good enough to be profitable OR get as much data as possible using betfair APIs, timeform APIs or racingpost, build own DB and feed it to MLFri, 11 Jul 2014 04:06:52 -0500Sean,Unfortunately,the poster known as BFF was utterly certifiable who lied faster than a horse could gallop and did more Banks than Ronnie Biggshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30301087/predicting-starting-prices-using-data-analytics-and-machine-learning?post_id=540406539#540406539Sean,Unfortunately,the poster known as BFF was utterly certifiable who lied faster than a horse could gallop and did more Banks than Ronnie BiggsThu, 10 Jul 2014 15:29:59 -0500There used to be some guy called something like betfairy fantasist who was always raving about the benefits of betfair sp.Apparently, it is much better than betting-shop sp ( from the punter's point of view, that is).Obviously, somebody like myself whttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30301087/predicting-starting-prices-using-data-analytics-and-machine-learning?post_id=540406487#540406487There used to be some guy called something like betfairy fantasist who was always raving about the benefits of betfair sp.Apparently, it is much better than betting-shop sp ( from the punter's point of view, that is).Obviously, somebody like myself wThu, 10 Jul 2014 15:27:20 -0500to do any useful analysis re steamers and drifters I'd you need at least a couple of years of betfair data on hand and have that linked to a form database. that way you can do some data mining on criteria for price changes.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30301087/predicting-starting-prices-using-data-analytics-and-machine-learning?post_id=540403897#540403897to do any useful analysis re steamers and drifters I'd you need at least a couple of years of betfair data on hand and have that linked to a form database. that way you can do some data mining on criteria for price changes.Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:03:01 -0500ps3All this stuff should probably not be here but in General betting, imo.It is very interesting.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30301087/predicting-starting-prices-using-data-analytics-and-machine-learning?post_id=540403623#540403623ps3All this stuff should probably not be here but in General betting, imo.It is very interesting.Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:37:24 -0500ps2,apologies for the rough spelling.The point remains valid: check your data.Today a bookie told me that an expensive horse with Dubai in its name had been punted from 25s to 7/2. It came nowhere.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30301087/predicting-starting-prices-using-data-analytics-and-machine-learning?post_id=540403603#540403603ps2,apologies for the rough spelling.The point remains valid: check your data.Today a bookie told me that an expensive horse with Dubai in its name had been punted from 25s to 7/2. It came nowhere.Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:35:40 -0500Interesting thread, imo.I still think that, when dealing with a shi t of thing known laughingly as "Starting Price", your data is more than likely to be corrupt.It always reminds me of when we used to volunteer to bring up the core samples from the lhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30301087/predicting-starting-prices-using-data-analytics-and-machine-learning?post_id=540403567#540403567Interesting thread, imo.I still think that, when dealing with a shi t of thing known laughingly as "Starting Price", your data is more than likely to be corrupt.It always reminds me of when we used to volunteer to bring up the core samples from the lThu, 10 Jul 2014 12:31:28 -0500if the criteria for believing a runner is going to shorten or drift is part of normal available form information, e.g. has had negative results at the distance when others have had positive results, then it can be done automatically. but you do needhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30301087/predicting-starting-prices-using-data-analytics-and-machine-learning?post_id=540403323#540403323if the criteria for believing a runner is going to shorten or drift is part of normal available form information, e.g. has had negative results at the distance when others have had positive results, then it can be done automatically. but you do needThu, 10 Jul 2014 12:08:25 -0500True pawras, We all know various parameters and can probabaly identify steamers and drifters by spending hours every day and can also make money but is it possible to do this automaticaly using code or other mathematics like data/machine learning etchttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30301087/predicting-starting-prices-using-data-analytics-and-machine-learning?post_id=540402977#540402977True pawras, We all know various parameters and can probabaly identify steamers and drifters by spending hours every day and can also make money but is it possible to do this automaticaly using code or other mathematics like data/machine learning etcThu, 10 Jul 2014 11:33:37 -0500