New Posts For Thread: wise dan..https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30125929/wise-danlay it til cows come , needs a long run and the track is wrong for it,something will get first runI thought he was voted their horse of the year last yearalthough I suspect you have an advantage of knowledge over me brigust1is their any N.American 8f turf horse he has avoided, and why was that horse not in the Breeders mileI suspect the Americanshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30125929/wise-dan?post_id=536287521#536287521I thought he was voted their horse of the year last yearalthough I suspect you have an advantage of knowledge over me brigust1is their any N.American 8f turf horse he has avoided, and why was that horse not in the Breeders mileI suspect the AmericansSun, 03 Nov 2013 09:49:18 -0600I can't argue with that but I think the American Press will. They think he has ducked all the issues and gone for a list of soft targets. I can't blame the trainer because he only has a few horses and 600k in Canada will do nicely. I just think a chahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30125929/wise-dan?post_id=536286801#536286801I can't argue with that but I think the American Press will. They think he has ducked all the issues and gone for a list of soft targets. I can't blame the trainer because he only has a few horses and 600k in Canada will do nicely. I just think a chaSun, 03 Nov 2013 09:14:22 -0600On his own tracks of courseI am not saying he would do the same at Ascotbut then he is not the only miler who stuck to his own tracksand he is not claiming to be the best horse of all time eitherthere have been better winners of the Breeders mile...bhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30125929/wise-dan?post_id=536286679#536286679On his own tracks of courseI am not saying he would do the same at Ascotbut then he is not the only miler who stuck to his own tracksand he is not claiming to be the best horse of all time eitherthere have been better winners of the Breeders mile...bSun, 03 Nov 2013 09:09:36 -0600His last win was impressive, would have gone close in BCWise Dan has beaten all the Europeans milers who have taken him on. I would not crib himWhat more can he dohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30125929/wise-dan?post_id=536286583#536286583His last win was impressive, would have gone close in BCWise Dan has beaten all the Europeans milers who have taken him on. I would not crib himWhat more can he doSun, 03 Nov 2013 09:05:26 -0600You may be right about Ron the Greek but after that win he has been beaten in 8 starts and a total of almost 60 lengths with one win in a Conditions race where the odds on favourite pulled up. Of course he did win his last race at 20/1 and almost 18https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30125929/wise-dan?post_id=536284989#536284989You may be right about Ron the Greek but after that win he has been beaten in 8 starts and a total of almost 60 lengths with one win in a Conditions race where the odds on favourite pulled up. Of course he did win his last race at 20/1 and almost 18Sun, 03 Nov 2013 07:21:13 -0600ok brigust1...oh I am definitely a lost soulI see one of Wise Dan's defeats was 2nd to Ron The Greek on dirt giving him 4lb...that was good formI do not have your knowledge of handicapping brigust1 I admit thatbut this is a game of opinionshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30125929/wise-dan?post_id=536284693#536284693ok brigust1...oh I am definitely a lost soulI see one of Wise Dan's defeats was 2nd to Ron The Greek on dirt giving him 4lb...that was good formI do not have your knowledge of handicapping brigust1 I admit thatbut this is a game of opinionsSun, 03 Nov 2013 06:57:50 -0600Don't be a lost soul Ebul.I know Wise Dan has won lots of races but it is what you beat that matters in my opinion. And I think these races need to be put into context. In Wise Dan's last 10 wins the horses that finished 2nd to him in those races havhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30125929/wise-dan?post_id=536284007#536284007Don't be a lost soul Ebul.I know Wise Dan has won lots of races but it is what you beat that matters in my opinion. And I think these races need to be put into context. In Wise Dan's last 10 wins the horses that finished 2nd to him in those races havSun, 03 Nov 2013 05:51:37 -0600for once brigust1 you have lost meof course Wise Dan is top class..he beats nearly everything put in front of himas for Magician, well superbly placed by AOB, but the quality of that race was woefulI should think the first 10 home in the Arc would hahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30125929/wise-dan?post_id=536281099#536281099for once brigust1 you have lost meof course Wise Dan is top class..he beats nearly everything put in front of himas for Magician, well superbly placed by AOB, but the quality of that race was woefulI should think the first 10 home in the Arc would haSat, 02 Nov 2013 21:17:04 -0500They've not all been great shakes brigust1 but the horse can only beat what rivals it and Excelebration, Moonlight Cloud, Animal Kingdom and Olympic Glory are all very good horses as ones we know of anyway if maybe not as familiar with the US horses.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30125929/wise-dan?post_id=536280435#536280435They've not all been great shakes brigust1 but the horse can only beat what rivals it and Excelebration, Moonlight Cloud, Animal Kingdom and Olympic Glory are all very good horses as ones we know of anyway if maybe not as familiar with the US horses.Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:53:10 -0500If you want an honest appraisal of Wise Dan's opponents throughout his career you should read Sam Walker in the Post Ima.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30125929/wise-dan?post_id=536280315#536280315If you want an honest appraisal of Wise Dan's opponents throughout his career you should read Sam Walker in the Post Ima.Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:46:12 -0500