New Posts For Thread: Anyone who has wrote off Camelot....https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29972591/anyone-who-has-wrote-off-camelotNeeds only to look at the performance of Declaration of War today,Looked a plater in the lockinge,Scintillating today,What a difference a few weeks makes,Write Camelot off at your peril i for one will be very surprised if Al Kazeem beats him again.To my eyes the unlucky Horse was The Fugue, the plan to track Camelot into the straight and kick when he kicked backfired on them , but she will win other races , so may Camelot , not a forlorn hope for the Arc on that run, might get a fairhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29972591/anyone-who-has-wrote-off-camelot?post_id=533230295#533230295To my eyes the unlucky Horse was The Fugue, the plan to track Camelot into the straight and kick when he kicked backfired on them , but she will win other races , so may Camelot , not a forlorn hope for the Arc on that run, might get a fairThu, 20 Jun 2013 01:45:53 -0500But isn't the real problem with using Camelot as a yardstick to measure horses like Al Kazeem the fact that Camelot might well be a dual Derby winner but the Derby isn't run at 10f?I'd also forgive St Nic (or any horse for that matter) an iffy run inhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29972591/anyone-who-has-wrote-off-camelot?post_id=533226921#533226921But isn't the real problem with using Camelot as a yardstick to measure horses like Al Kazeem the fact that Camelot might well be a dual Derby winner but the Derby isn't run at 10f?I'd also forgive St Nic (or any horse for that matter) an iffy run inWed, 19 Jun 2013 19:11:33 -0500I think it is self defeating still running Camelotthe only thing they are achieving is a reduction in his stud valueunless AOB know something we don't, it seems obstinacythey should have been grateful for what they got from him when he was 3, and rethttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29972591/anyone-who-has-wrote-off-camelot?post_id=533226811#533226811I think it is self defeating still running Camelotthe only thing they are achieving is a reduction in his stud valueunless AOB know something we don't, it seems obstinacythey should have been grateful for what they got from him when he was 3, and retWed, 19 Jun 2013 19:04:01 -0500al kazeem was deserving winner today and mukhadram was unlucky not to get a group 1 win, substandard group 1race?, dont think so, the fugue is genuine group 1 horse and it finished 3rd today. al kazeem is stillimproving thats why the horse just had ehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29972591/anyone-who-has-wrote-off-camelot?post_id=533226675#533226675al kazeem was deserving winner today and mukhadram was unlucky not to get a group 1 win, substandard group 1race?, dont think so, the fugue is genuine group 1 horse and it finished 3rd today. al kazeem is stillimproving thats why the horse just had eWed, 19 Jun 2013 18:57:51 -0500And if those four did run how would you compare it and where would they finish if they ran in the '97 King George where Swain beat Pilsudski, Helissio and Singspiel?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29972591/anyone-who-has-wrote-off-camelot?post_id=533225173#533225173And if those four did run how would you compare it and where would they finish if they ran in the '97 King George where Swain beat Pilsudski, Helissio and Singspiel?Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:24:16 -0500You see how it works Silver. You are obviously judging Al Kazeem on his defeats of Camelot because beating Mukhadram and Thomas Chippendale is clearly not Gr1 form at all.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29972591/anyone-who-has-wrote-off-camelot?post_id=533224871#533224871You see how it works Silver. You are obviously judging Al Kazeem on his defeats of Camelot because beating Mukhadram and Thomas Chippendale is clearly not Gr1 form at all.Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:15:35 -0500me neitherhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29972591/anyone-who-has-wrote-off-camelot?post_id=533224847#533224847me neitherWed, 19 Jun 2013 18:15:06 -0500If it was 10f I'd have Cirrus everytime but in the King George it would be tough to call between the 3, I couldn't have Camelot on my mind at all.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29972591/anyone-who-has-wrote-off-camelot?post_id=533224455#533224455If it was 10f I'd have Cirrus everytime but in the King George it would be tough to call between the 3, I couldn't have Camelot on my mind at all.Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:07:39 -0500St Nic for surehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29972591/anyone-who-has-wrote-off-camelot?post_id=533224313#533224313St Nic for sureWed, 19 Jun 2013 18:03:42 -0500Silver I am trying to find out what other people think hence the questions. Sadly I don't know everything yet but I'm sure that day will come. So if St Nic, Al Kazeem, Camelot and Cirrus des Aigles turn up in the King George on good ground who do youhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29972591/anyone-who-has-wrote-off-camelot?post_id=533224271#533224271Silver I am trying to find out what other people think hence the questions. Sadly I don't know everything yet but I'm sure that day will come. So if St Nic, Al Kazeem, Camelot and Cirrus des Aigles turn up in the King George on good ground who do youWed, 19 Jun 2013 18:02:22 -0500