New Posts For Thread: Frankel is a wonderful horse but..https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29263941/frankel-is-a-wonderful-horse-butit's starting to get a bit tedious seeing him beat up nothing horses and the same one's over and over,it's high time connections started getting a bit ambitious.Earlier in the thread I posted the following:"I've said this a few times on here (without any real response) but I have concerns about the C&D of the Champion Stakes but absolutely NO worries about York, as there'll be not far off FIVE furlongs to gehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29263941/frankel-is-a-wonderful-horse-but?post_id=523653841#523653841Earlier in the thread I posted the following:"I've said this a few times on here (without any real response) but I have concerns about the C&D of the Champion Stakes but absolutely NO worries about York, as there'll be not far off FIVE furlongs to geFri, 31 Aug 2012 16:03:36 -0500I think the fact Frankel won the 2000gns so easily suggests that Queally didn't go off too fast and much of the thinking behind why some say he did was a mixture of the lead he built up so quickly and then imagines of the upsides TV camera, but he alhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29263941/frankel-is-a-wonderful-horse-but?post_id=522535665#522535665I think the fact Frankel won the 2000gns so easily suggests that Queally didn't go off too fast and much of the thinking behind why some say he did was a mixture of the lead he built up so quickly and then imagines of the upsides TV camera, but he alThu, 02 Aug 2012 11:25:30 -0500Don't think there's much chance he'll stay in training beyond this season,When there's an unbeaten record on the line it's usually a no brainer to retire them asap.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29263941/frankel-is-a-wonderful-horse-but?post_id=522533607#522533607Don't think there's much chance he'll stay in training beyond this season,When there's an unbeaten record on the line it's usually a no brainer to retire them asap.Thu, 02 Aug 2012 10:22:24 -0500I think the horse needs another season to really stamp his greatness. Next season he could unleash himself in the Eclipse and the Prince of Wales. Just to add a few more colours to his rainbow.The Prince does not need the money and Frankel will be athttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29263941/frankel-is-a-wonderful-horse-but?post_id=522522763#522522763I think the horse needs another season to really stamp his greatness. Next season he could unleash himself in the Eclipse and the Prince of Wales. Just to add a few more colours to his rainbow.The Prince does not need the money and Frankel will be atThu, 02 Aug 2012 03:10:32 -0500Can I say what a brilliant thread. Loads of different opinions and no abuse. I'm sure everyone went to bed agreeing or disagreeing but feeling they put their points across. Just what a forum between horseracing fans should be. I disagree with Taffy thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29263941/frankel-is-a-wonderful-horse-but?post_id=522522397#522522397Can I say what a brilliant thread. Loads of different opinions and no abuse. I'm sure everyone went to bed agreeing or disagreeing but feeling they put their points across. Just what a forum between horseracing fans should be. I disagree with Taffy tThu, 02 Aug 2012 02:37:03 -0500Queally went off too fast in the Guineas and then went even faster.It was the worst ride I have ever seen ina Classic and nobody has ever picked up on it.Queally gave him a bum ride in the St James Palace as well.Q gave Wrotham Heath a lousy ride athttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29263941/frankel-is-a-wonderful-horse-but?post_id=522521183#522521183Queally went off too fast in the Guineas and then went even faster.It was the worst ride I have ever seen ina Classic and nobody has ever picked up on it.Queally gave him a bum ride in the St James Palace as well.Q gave Wrotham Heath a lousy ride atThu, 02 Aug 2012 00:30:39 -0500Queally went off too fast in the Guineas and then went even faster.It was the worst ride I have ever seen ina Classic and nobody has ever picked up on it.Queally gave him a bum ride in the St James Palace as well.Q gave Wrotham Heath a lousy ride athttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29263941/frankel-is-a-wonderful-horse-but?post_id=522521181#522521181Queally went off too fast in the Guineas and then went even faster.It was the worst ride I have ever seen ina Classic and nobody has ever picked up on it.Queally gave him a bum ride in the St James Palace as well.Q gave Wrotham Heath a lousy ride atThu, 02 Aug 2012 00:30:37 -0500well thats it, they would be going slower fractions over longer and he can jog when others are off the bridle such is his ability so i just dont realise why they werent tempted to go up sooner. i believe he wasnt ready for the derby but IF he was minhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29263941/frankel-is-a-wonderful-horse-but?post_id=522518093#522518093well thats it, they would be going slower fractions over longer and he can jog when others are off the bridle such is his ability so i just dont realise why they werent tempted to go up sooner. i believe he wasnt ready for the derby but IF he was minWed, 01 Aug 2012 20:36:16 -0500I agree and have made the STS analogy a few times before in that being by a miler in Cape Cross, if they had kept him to a mile then everyone would have been saying he wouldn't have stayed 10-12f.As for Frankel and his fast times, they clearly wouldnhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29263941/frankel-is-a-wonderful-horse-but?post_id=522517787#522517787I agree and have made the STS analogy a few times before in that being by a miler in Cape Cross, if they had kept him to a mile then everyone would have been saying he wouldn't have stayed 10-12f.As for Frankel and his fast times, they clearly wouldnWed, 01 Aug 2012 20:19:43 -0500but u cant truly find out until u try it.if every trainer had this mentality towards their horses, none would step up if there was any doubt ehich there often is. oxx had the same doubts with sts and look what happened with him.seems to be diff regahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29263941/frankel-is-a-wonderful-horse-but?post_id=522517343#522517343but u cant truly find out until u try it.if every trainer had this mentality towards their horses, none would step up if there was any doubt ehich there often is. oxx had the same doubts with sts and look what happened with him.seems to be diff regaWed, 01 Aug 2012 19:59:23 -0500