New Posts For Thread: why bet 1/4 first three when everyone else is 1/5th..too much hasslehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29234839/why-bet-14-first-three-when-everyone-else-is-15thtoo-much-hassleyesterday at york i was in a line of seven bookmakers. i was the only one out of al of them betting 1/4 odds in the handicaps.in the sixth race a horse refused to go down to the start which reduced the field to 11 reducing the each way terms to 1/5thU HUM IT ILL PLAY IThttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29234839/why-bet-14-first-three-when-everyone-else-is-15thtoo-much-hassle?post_id=521965479#521965479U HUM IT ILL PLAY ITTue, 17 Jul 2012 04:22:50 -0500free advert for you again Timhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29234839/why-bet-14-first-three-when-everyone-else-is-15thtoo-much-hassle?post_id=521965391#521965391free advert for you again TimTue, 17 Jul 2012 04:15:19 -0500SPOT ON MUM,SOME BOOKMAKERS EVEN GO "BIGGER THAN THE MACHINE"(NO COMMISSION,NO PREMIUM CHARGE)AND U CAN BE ONhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29234839/why-bet-14-first-three-when-everyone-else-is-15thtoo-much-hassle?post_id=521965359#521965359SPOT ON MUM,SOME BOOKMAKERS EVEN GO "BIGGER THAN THE MACHINE"(NO COMMISSION,NO PREMIUM CHARGE)AND U CAN BE ONTue, 17 Jul 2012 04:13:19 -0500hip ,the prices still vary on course as they used to ,they just go back into line quicker .Yes the prices are based on betfair ,but people are willing to take horses on ,these prices do not last long because the punters soon dash in (or the arbers )https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29234839/why-bet-14-first-three-when-everyone-else-is-15thtoo-much-hassle?post_id=521965263#521965263hip ,the prices still vary on course as they used to ,they just go back into line quicker .Yes the prices are based on betfair ,but people are willing to take horses on ,these prices do not last long because the punters soon dash in (or the arbers )Tue, 17 Jul 2012 04:06:07 -0500I take your point about skinners - there is an element of good old fashioned luck there.My biggest gripe these days is that even at Festival meets (where admittedly you can find some value) everyone's tissue is the same i.e they look at Betfair and khttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29234839/why-bet-14-first-three-when-everyone-else-is-15thtoo-much-hassle?post_id=521947619#521947619I take your point about skinners - there is an element of good old fashioned luck there.My biggest gripe these days is that even at Festival meets (where admittedly you can find some value) everyone's tissue is the same i.e they look at Betfair and kMon, 16 Jul 2012 15:19:10 -0500HipObviously books work to a margin, to help cover expenses / earn profit, and on course its less than the SP.Very few (if any) average anywhwere near £10k.There doesn't seem to be a long list looking to pursue the trade - that is true.Skinners arehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29234839/why-bet-14-first-three-when-everyone-else-is-15thtoo-much-hassle?post_id=521942065#521942065HipObviously books work to a margin, to help cover expenses / earn profit, and on course its less than the SP.Very few (if any) average anywhwere near £10k.There doesn't seem to be a long list looking to pursue the trade - that is true.Skinners areMon, 16 Jul 2012 12:51:07 -0500So I am right about the margin.That means you need to do an average of £10k per day to make something approaching a living , £20k to really roll. Therefore if you can't do that you need to bet at different tracks or some bookies are going to have thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29234839/why-bet-14-first-three-when-everyone-else-is-15thtoo-much-hassle?post_id=521940183#521940183So I am right about the margin.That means you need to do an average of £10k per day to make something approaching a living , £20k to really roll. Therefore if you can't do that you need to bet at different tracks or some bookies are going to have tMon, 16 Jul 2012 11:58:12 -0500lol.The skinners are taken account in the 7% margin.Exs are paid regardless.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29234839/why-bet-14-first-three-when-everyone-else-is-15thtoo-much-hassle?post_id=521938135#521938135lol.The skinners are taken account in the 7% margin.Exs are paid regardless.Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:58:26 -0500unless you get a skinner in the magnet cup with a crowd of 45,000, , and a skinner in the july cup to boot,https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29234839/why-bet-14-first-three-when-everyone-else-is-15thtoo-much-hassle?post_id=521937891#521937891unless you get a skinner in the magnet cup with a crowd of 45,000, , and a skinner in the july cup to boot,Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:52:35 -0500Hip PriestYou sort of miss the expenses element!7% of money taken say £5k on a day less exs of £350 per day, equates to 12 hours work for free.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29234839/why-bet-14-first-three-when-everyone-else-is-15thtoo-much-hassle?post_id=521937309#521937309Hip PriestYou sort of miss the expenses element!7% of money taken say £5k on a day less exs of £350 per day, equates to 12 hours work for free.Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:35:18 -0500