New Posts For Thread: frankel for juddmonte, no reason for camelot to swerve ithttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29211229/frankel-for-juddmonte-no-reason-for-camelot-to-swerve-itno reason for camelot not to go thereI don't think there is any doubt that Frankel is a great, he's one of the best milers ever. But to be the greatest, which he's been rated by some, he has to at least match what any horse has ever done on a track, being one of the great milers makes yhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29211229/frankel-for-juddmonte-no-reason-for-camelot-to-swerve-it?post_id=521439253#521439253I don't think there is any doubt that Frankel is a great, he's one of the best milers ever. But to be the greatest, which he's been rated by some, he has to at least match what any horse has ever done on a track, being one of the great milers makes ySun, 01 Jul 2012 09:19:02 -0500Hamilton was the horse Max. I took it for granted you would understand the metaphor. Reload.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29211229/frankel-for-juddmonte-no-reason-for-camelot-to-swerve-it?post_id=521438951#521438951Hamilton was the horse Max. I took it for granted you would understand the metaphor. Reload.Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:07:28 -0500om not saying hes not a great if he doesnt run in the arc and im not saying camelot IS a great either, far from it.all im saying is that the racing public are easily pleased when they appear to be more impressed when they see a horse beat a horses hhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29211229/frankel-for-juddmonte-no-reason-for-camelot-to-swerve-it?post_id=521435219#521435219om not saying hes not a great if he doesnt run in the arc and im not saying camelot IS a great either, far from it.all im saying is that the racing public are easily pleased when they appear to be more impressed when they see a horse beat a horses hSun, 01 Jul 2012 06:44:46 -0500Folk baffle me sometimes. If Lewis Hamilton was always racing against poor opposition and winning easily would you claim him to be the greatest driver ever? Would you? Really?Frankel is clearly head and shoulders above the other milers that everyonehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29211229/frankel-for-juddmonte-no-reason-for-camelot-to-swerve-it?post_id=521434797#521434797Folk baffle me sometimes. If Lewis Hamilton was always racing against poor opposition and winning easily would you claim him to be the greatest driver ever? Would you? Really?Frankel is clearly head and shoulders above the other milers that everyoneSun, 01 Jul 2012 06:25:37 -0500folk are on here saying frankel is not a great if he dodges the arc and yet at the same time talking up a 12f specialist (camelot) who will almost certainly dodge the arc to take the easy 3 runner G2 st leger. there have been plenty of top class horshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29211229/frankel-for-juddmonte-no-reason-for-camelot-to-swerve-it?post_id=521434769#521434769folk are on here saying frankel is not a great if he dodges the arc and yet at the same time talking up a 12f specialist (camelot) who will almost certainly dodge the arc to take the easy 3 runner G2 st leger. there have been plenty of top class horsSun, 01 Jul 2012 06:24:18 -0500Camelot should run in the juddmonte as the main trial race for the ledger is also on the same day and it wouldn't knock his future stud value if he gets beat by Frankel and it would increase the worth of Galileo. After the Juddmonte Frankel will go thttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29211229/frankel-for-juddmonte-no-reason-for-camelot-to-swerve-it?post_id=521434381#521434381Camelot should run in the juddmonte as the main trial race for the ledger is also on the same day and it wouldn't knock his future stud value if he gets beat by Frankel and it would increase the worth of Galileo. After the Juddmonte Frankel will go tSun, 01 Jul 2012 05:59:27 -0500Why does Frankel have to run (and I presume win) in the Arc to be considered a great ?Does Usain Bolt have to win the 3000m steeplechase at the Olympics ?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29211229/frankel-for-juddmonte-no-reason-for-camelot-to-swerve-it?post_id=521434369#521434369Why does Frankel have to run (and I presume win) in the Arc to be considered a great ?Does Usain Bolt have to win the 3000m steeplechase at the Olympics ?Sun, 01 Jul 2012 05:58:21 -0500i agree here with you re racing for change rubbish, but one thing that frankel is masking over imo is the sad state of uk racehorses on the whole, bloody hopeless, god help us when frankel retireshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29211229/frankel-for-juddmonte-no-reason-for-camelot-to-swerve-it?post_id=521434267#521434267i agree here with you re racing for change rubbish, but one thing that frankel is masking over imo is the sad state of uk racehorses on the whole, bloody hopeless, god help us when frankel retiresSun, 01 Jul 2012 05:52:43 -0500It's called pattern racing. It was here before any of us and it will be here long after.Frankel has followed the pattern to the letter and has a perfect score.Anyone who believes they could have campaigned the horse better than Henry Cecil is simplyhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29211229/frankel-for-juddmonte-no-reason-for-camelot-to-swerve-it?post_id=521434227#521434227It's called pattern racing. It was here before any of us and it will be here long after.Frankel has followed the pattern to the letter and has a perfect score.Anyone who believes they could have campaigned the horse better than Henry Cecil is simplySun, 01 Jul 2012 05:50:45 -0500middle distance runners can be trained to go from 800 m to 1500 to 10,000 to marathon, you cannot train a horse to stay a distance if pedigree says no, of course i could train frankel to win over 2 miles against sellers probably , butnot against tophttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29211229/frankel-for-juddmonte-no-reason-for-camelot-to-swerve-it?post_id=521434223#521434223middle distance runners can be trained to go from 800 m to 1500 to 10,000 to marathon, you cannot train a horse to stay a distance if pedigree says no, of course i could train frankel to win over 2 miles against sellers probably , butnot against topSun, 01 Jul 2012 05:50:34 -0500