New Posts For Thread: Owners / Trainers - Laying their own horses to lose !!!!!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28989231/owners-trainers---laying-their-own-horses-to-loseWhy is it fraudulent for an owner /trainer to lay his own horse to lose ? Yet not fraudulent for them to back another horse in the same race to win ? What's the difference ?It's amazing that no one has spotted this before,ghostwriter11!?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28989231/owners-trainers---laying-their-own-horses-to-lose?post_id=517398119#517398119It's amazing that no one has spotted this before,ghostwriter11!?Sun, 11 Mar 2012 04:13:54 -0500When those who make rules don't think them through (like the whip rule ) it ends up in a mess.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28989231/owners-trainers---laying-their-own-horses-to-lose?post_id=517398073#517398073When those who make rules don't think them through (like the whip rule ) it ends up in a mess.Sun, 11 Mar 2012 04:09:54 -0500Frog my point is to ban people who lay their own horses to lose and not those backing others to win is plain stupidhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28989231/owners-trainers---laying-their-own-horses-to-lose?post_id=517398043#517398043Frog my point is to ban people who lay their own horses to lose and not those backing others to win is plain stupidSun, 11 Mar 2012 04:07:18 -0500Not all bookmakers have MOU with the HRA and those that do are not as open as Betfair. Also they all untraceable cash betting. So it would be unenforceable.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28989231/owners-trainers---laying-their-own-horses-to-lose?post_id=517397339#517397339Not all bookmakers have MOU with the HRA and those that do are not as open as Betfair. Also they all untraceable cash betting. So it would be unenforceable.Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:45:07 -0600Ok next observation - If its fraud to lay your own horse to loase is it ok to back all the others with a bookmaker ?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28989231/owners-trainers---laying-their-own-horses-to-lose?post_id=517397161#517397161Ok next observation - If its fraud to lay your own horse to loase is it ok to back all the others with a bookmaker ?Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:28:09 -0600Ok simple equation 4 horse race all trading @4 owner backs the all horses except his own - in reality lays his own horse @4- Why is that acceptable ?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28989231/owners-trainers---laying-their-own-horses-to-lose?post_id=517397119#517397119Ok simple equation 4 horse race all trading @4 owner backs the all horses except his own - in reality lays his own horse @4- Why is that acceptable ?Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:24:11 -0600Why is it fraudulent for an owner /trainer to lay his own horse to lose ? Yet not fraudulent for them to back another horse in the same race to win ? What's the difference ?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28989231/owners-trainers---laying-their-own-horses-to-lose?post_id=517397009#517397009Why is it fraudulent for an owner /trainer to lay his own horse to lose ? Yet not fraudulent for them to back another horse in the same race to win ? What's the difference ?Sun, 11 Mar 2012 01:13:23 -0600