New Posts For Thread: A simple solution to the whip issue?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28608503/a-simple-solution-to-the-whip-issueTo me the whole thing seems so ridiculously complicated, why not instead of giving out bans, loss of money etc, just make one simple rule:if you break the rules, the horse is disqualified. Surely at a stroke (pun intended) you would remove any issueThe RSPCA has long been the most pro-racing of the animal charities.The analogy with football is false because it is a team game, and because it's timeframe allows for in-game sanctions. If a footballer scores from an offside position, the goal is dihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28608503/a-simple-solution-to-the-whip-issue?post_id=511565719#511565719The RSPCA has long been the most pro-racing of the animal charities.The analogy with football is false because it is a team game, and because it's timeframe allows for in-game sanctions. If a footballer scores from an offside position, the goal is diSun, 23 Oct 2011 07:28:43 -0500Players cheat all the time in football. They dive to get a pen or a player sent off.They handball to control the ball and score.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28608503/a-simple-solution-to-the-whip-issue?post_id=511565201#511565201Players cheat all the time in football. They dive to get a pen or a player sent off.They handball to control the ball and score.Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:13:35 -0500How many sports exist where you are allowed to break the rules and still win?A foul in football is breaking the rules. Does the team get disqualified? No.What would happen if that happened?British football will end. The leagues would finish.There wilhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28608503/a-simple-solution-to-the-whip-issue?post_id=511564977#511564977How many sports exist where you are allowed to break the rules and still win?A foul in football is breaking the rules. Does the team get disqualified? No.What would happen if that happened?British football will end. The leagues would finish.There wilSun, 23 Oct 2011 07:07:04 -0500Well that worked really well Ramruma.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28608503/a-simple-solution-to-the-whip-issue?post_id=511563821#511563821Well that worked really well Ramruma.Sun, 23 Oct 2011 06:31:00 -0500The guideline figure was six a few years ago.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28608503/a-simple-solution-to-the-whip-issue?post_id=511563539#511563539The guideline figure was six a few years ago.Sun, 23 Oct 2011 06:21:09 -0500This is where the 7 hit rule is crazy, why on earth any jockey thought this figure was a good ideahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28608503/a-simple-solution-to-the-whip-issue?post_id=511563301#511563301This is where the 7 hit rule is crazy, why on earth any jockey thought this figure was a good ideaSun, 23 Oct 2011 06:12:59 -0500I totally agree that we can't have horses being disqualified wrt betting but the disincentive of losing the race wrt prize money should be there. I suggested elsewhere that, after the weigh-in so betting isn't affected, they add a distance per extrahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28608503/a-simple-solution-to-the-whip-issue?post_id=511562809#511562809I totally agree that we can't have horses being disqualified wrt betting but the disincentive of losing the race wrt prize money should be there. I suggested elsewhere that, after the weigh-in so betting isn't affected, they add a distance per extraSun, 23 Oct 2011 05:56:05 -0500I think Graham Cunningham referred to the disqualification of horses for whip offences as the "nuke" option.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28608503/a-simple-solution-to-the-whip-issue?post_id=511562485#511562485I think Graham Cunningham referred to the disqualification of horses for whip offences as the "nuke" option.Sun, 23 Oct 2011 05:44:46 -0500In the end it wouldn't come down to stewards and jockeys but how many wealthy owners were involved in litigation against the BHA to get their prize money back. Most owners are out of pocket keeping racehorses. How many would stick it if the BHA werehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28608503/a-simple-solution-to-the-whip-issue?post_id=511559051#511559051In the end it wouldn't come down to stewards and jockeys but how many wealthy owners were involved in litigation against the BHA to get their prize money back. Most owners are out of pocket keeping racehorses. How many would stick it if the BHA wereSun, 23 Oct 2011 03:36:58 -0500Regarding Onlookers' point about ''amatuer stewards'' and the worry about disqualification. I thought the new rules removed the previously subjective decision of what was ok and what wasn't; there's a number allowed, over that and it's not allowed, shttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28608503/a-simple-solution-to-the-whip-issue?post_id=511558373#511558373Regarding Onlookers' point about ''amatuer stewards'' and the worry about disqualification. I thought the new rules removed the previously subjective decision of what was ok and what wasn't; there's a number allowed, over that and it's not allowed, sSun, 23 Oct 2011 03:02:27 -0500