New Posts For Thread: Disgrace,,,,,,something HAD to be done.......https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28526291/disgracesomething-had-to-be-donehttp://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS/news_horse/ALL/2431//shocking.pedro.... you might well be right but in my opinion and it is only an opinion, i just cant have the horse carrying an injury, like the one you suggest, from one race to another without anyone or anything detecting it.fractures will happen, loads occuhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28526291/disgracesomething-had-to-be-done?post_id=510160993#510160993pedro.... you might well be right but in my opinion and it is only an opinion, i just cant have the horse carrying an injury, like the one you suggest, from one race to another without anyone or anything detecting it.fractures will happen, loads occuTue, 18 Oct 2011 07:22:36 -0500Budd - if the whip is banned altogether, that will finish racing as a gambling sport. Should we then ask the objectors to the whip, if they would willingly pay more tax, as the people employed in the racing game[and there are many] now become unemplohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28526291/disgracesomething-had-to-be-done?post_id=510160763#510160763Budd - if the whip is banned altogether, that will finish racing as a gambling sport. Should we then ask the objectors to the whip, if they would willingly pay more tax, as the people employed in the racing game[and there are many] now become unemploTue, 18 Oct 2011 07:13:45 -0500think your right BuddelieaWith courses watering more and more to never get firm ground. Fences being modified and moved the whip was always going to be the next.No way back now.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28526291/disgracesomething-had-to-be-done?post_id=510160675#510160675think your right BuddelieaWith courses watering more and more to never get firm ground. Fences being modified and moved the whip was always going to be the next.No way back now.Tue, 18 Oct 2011 07:11:33 -0500dealer, I do not know what happened to Rewilding. I personally think most horses are genuine and honest creatures who when trained properly will do what their rider asks, including running through the pain barrier in response to being urged to go fashttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28526291/disgracesomething-had-to-be-done?post_id=510160621#510160621dealer, I do not know what happened to Rewilding. I personally think most horses are genuine and honest creatures who when trained properly will do what their rider asks, including running through the pain barrier in response to being urged to go fasTue, 18 Oct 2011 07:09:55 -0500Well this is going to run and run.The only 2 ways it can ever stop imo is for racing to say stuff the whip objectors and do what we want,or ban hitting horses with it completely and just have it for steering purposes.As we now live in a society thathttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28526291/disgracesomething-had-to-be-done?post_id=510160037#510160037Well this is going to run and run.The only 2 ways it can ever stop imo is for racing to say stuff the whip objectors and do what we want,or ban hitting horses with it completely and just have it for steering purposes.As we now live in a society thatTue, 18 Oct 2011 06:52:06 -0500Agree completely with Dustybin. The word whip conjures up thoughts of torture etc. If it were called an incentiviser, the public wouldnt care less about it. Same object just different name, and all would be fine.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28526291/disgracesomething-had-to-be-done?post_id=510159985#510159985Agree completely with Dustybin. The word whip conjures up thoughts of torture etc. If it were called an incentiviser, the public wouldnt care less about it. Same object just different name, and all would be fine.Tue, 18 Oct 2011 06:49:41 -0500sorry pedro, its all about opinions but i really cant have that scenario in rewilding case. like you i am not a vet or have i worked in a stable but this is a million to one shot for me and bears no relevance to the whip debate. the whip issue had tohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28526291/disgracesomething-had-to-be-done?post_id=510159907#510159907sorry pedro, its all about opinions but i really cant have that scenario in rewilding case. like you i am not a vet or have i worked in a stable but this is a million to one shot for me and bears no relevance to the whip debate. the whip issue had toTue, 18 Oct 2011 06:47:07 -0500out of 5how painful is it for horse being whipped?thxhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28526291/disgracesomething-had-to-be-done?post_id=510159905#510159905out of 5how painful is it for horse being whipped?thxTue, 18 Oct 2011 06:47:00 -0500as previously suggested, the fracture could have been so hairline that the horse stood training without displaying any obvious lameness at home. So not suggesting that Godolphin were in any way negligent in their care of the horse.Horses are not askehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28526291/disgracesomething-had-to-be-done?post_id=510159705#510159705as previously suggested, the fracture could have been so hairline that the horse stood training without displaying any obvious lameness at home. So not suggesting that Godolphin were in any way negligent in their care of the horse.Horses are not askeTue, 18 Oct 2011 06:40:31 -0500pedrobob 18 Oct 11 12:25Rewilding suffered a leg fracture did he not? Would it not be possible that a hairline fracture originated in the Prince OF Wales, gradually worsened ( or at least did not improve or heal) in subsequent training and finally snhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28526291/disgracesomething-had-to-be-done?post_id=510159587#510159587pedrobob 18 Oct 11 12:25Rewilding suffered a leg fracture did he not? Would it not be possible that a hairline fracture originated in the Prince OF Wales, gradually worsened ( or at least did not improve or heal) in subsequent training and finally snTue, 18 Oct 2011 06:36:18 -0500