New Posts For Thread: Plumpton 5-20 Value in betting the odds on jolly!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28525729/plumpton-5-20-value-in-betting-the-odds-on-jollyThe watering in Plumpton doesn't looked as if its worked out too well as the ground is really quick (thus the tiny fields). The bumper has only 3 and surely the ex Irish Point To Point winner Finnegan Paddy with Richard Johnson booked looks to have t"Koikeeper it was a 2mile 2 bumper on Stiffish track"Well, that's the first time I've heard one of the sharpest tracks in the country called stiff!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28525729/plumpton-5-20-value-in-betting-the-odds-on-jolly?post_id=510157221#510157221"Koikeeper it was a 2mile 2 bumper on Stiffish track"Well, that's the first time I've heard one of the sharpest tracks in the country called stiff!Tue, 18 Oct 2011 04:39:49 -0500Mr Vaughan should have taken the beast to Blackpool Beach instead of Plumpton racecourse imo.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28525729/plumpton-5-20-value-in-betting-the-odds-on-jolly?post_id=510157031#510157031Mr Vaughan should have taken the beast to Blackpool Beach instead of Plumpton racecourse imo.Tue, 18 Oct 2011 04:27:43 -0500So Vaughan never chooses the wrong track so he can get a price next time. You're having a laugh!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28525729/plumpton-5-20-value-in-betting-the-odds-on-jolly?post_id=510143153#510143153So Vaughan never chooses the wrong track so he can get a price next time. You're having a laugh!Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:43:22 -0500Not the first time a point to point winner has been too slow to win a bumper.However i take your point that the jockey should of made sure it was a stamina test! Wrong choice of track as well even though it was 2mile 2f as plumpton is too sharp.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28525729/plumpton-5-20-value-in-betting-the-odds-on-jolly?post_id=510133469#510133469Not the first time a point to point winner has been too slow to win a bumper.However i take your point that the jockey should of made sure it was a stamina test! Wrong choice of track as well even though it was 2mile 2f as plumpton is too sharp.Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:21:06 -0500Koikeeper it was a 2mile 2 bumper on Stiffish track..the quick ground was a worry.But thought Johnson would have ensured Stamina TEST !!! Moderate Ridehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28525729/plumpton-5-20-value-in-betting-the-odds-on-jolly?post_id=510133107#510133107Koikeeper it was a 2mile 2 bumper on Stiffish track..the quick ground was a worry.But thought Johnson would have ensured Stamina TEST !!! Moderate RideMon, 17 Oct 2011 14:12:22 -0500Koikeeper it was a 2mile 2 bumper on Stiffish track..the quick ground was a worry.But thought Johnson would have ensured Stamina TEST !!! Moderate Ridehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28525729/plumpton-5-20-value-in-betting-the-odds-on-jolly?post_id=510133099#510133099Koikeeper it was a 2mile 2 bumper on Stiffish track..the quick ground was a worry.But thought Johnson would have ensured Stamina TEST !!! Moderate RideMon, 17 Oct 2011 14:12:17 -0500Johnson knew all that before hand,while I accept he never travelled like a 2/9 chance. He looked to have it sewn up when going on before turn in ! He'd just gone on,the eventual winner was off the bridle. If he'd gone on then instead of waiting he mihttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28525729/plumpton-5-20-value-in-betting-the-odds-on-jolly?post_id=510132385#510132385Johnson knew all that before hand,while I accept he never travelled like a 2/9 chance. He looked to have it sewn up when going on before turn in ! He'd just gone on,the eventual winner was off the bridle. If he'd gone on then instead of waiting he miMon, 17 Oct 2011 13:55:52 -0500You have to remember that horses coming from The P2P scene....winning/running over 3m on heavy ground....invariable find bumpers around 2m too quick for themhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28525729/plumpton-5-20-value-in-betting-the-odds-on-jolly?post_id=510126299#510126299You have to remember that horses coming from The P2P scene....winning/running over 3m on heavy ground....invariable find bumpers around 2m too quick for themMon, 17 Oct 2011 11:35:14 -0500The fav was being niggled with a circuit to run. Only got close as the winner tired on the run in. Winner will come on bundles for that run.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28525729/plumpton-5-20-value-in-betting-the-odds-on-jolly?post_id=510126119#510126119The fav was being niggled with a circuit to run. Only got close as the winner tired on the run in. Winner will come on bundles for that run.Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:31:19 -0500Just one flaw in your analysis ...]You overlooked MAD GEORGE'S pedigree.A Point-to-Point winner (FINNEGAN'S) against this pedigree ...MAD GEORGE.half-brother to a winner in Japan; dam unraced half-sister to top-class 1m4f-1m6f performer (Leger winnerhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28525729/plumpton-5-20-value-in-betting-the-odds-on-jolly?post_id=510126093#510126093Just one flaw in your analysis ...]You overlooked MAD GEORGE'S pedigree.A Point-to-Point winner (FINNEGAN'S) against this pedigree ...MAD GEORGE.half-brother to a winner in Japan; dam unraced half-sister to top-class 1m4f-1m6f performer (Leger winnerMon, 17 Oct 2011 11:30:50 -0500