New Posts For Thread: Frankel v Sea the Starshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28518117/frankel-v-sea-the-stars1m2f on the straight course at Newmarket.10/11 each of two?Maybe it's worth considering that Frankel was by the time of the 2000 Guineas already being spoke of as being a potential superstar and went of at a price of 1/2F on the day and that might had caused certain other horses like Excelebration to have swhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28518117/frankel-v-sea-the-stars?post_id=510137329#510137329Maybe it's worth considering that Frankel was by the time of the 2000 Guineas already being spoke of as being a potential superstar and went of at a price of 1/2F on the day and that might had caused certain other horses like Excelebration to have swMon, 17 Oct 2011 15:37:44 -0500original harry!!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28518117/frankel-v-sea-the-stars?post_id=510136009#510136009original harry!!Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:10:10 -0500i dont look too much at times but they do help get a grasp on the ability of a horse if a horse keeps posting fast times!how else are we gonna compare ability from diff eras on individual performance is we dont factor who horses beat and the times ofhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28518117/frankel-v-sea-the-stars?post_id=510135967#510135967i dont look too much at times but they do help get a grasp on the ability of a horse if a horse keeps posting fast times!how else are we gonna compare ability from diff eras on individual performance is we dont factor who horses beat and the times ofMon, 17 Oct 2011 15:09:15 -0500Opinions are like a**eholes, everybody's got I. Some people need to get out more,though. 18,000 posts.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28518117/frankel-v-sea-the-stars?post_id=510135797#510135797Opinions are like a**eholes, everybody's got I. Some people need to get out more,though. 18,000 posts.Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:05:52 -0500actually im not 100% on frankels times but i dont think hes even broken one track record yet!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28518117/frankel-v-sea-the-stars?post_id=510135783#510135783actually im not 100% on frankels times but i dont think hes even broken one track record yet!Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:05:40 -0500yes but there are different degrees on exceptional, and the only way to judge are thru other horses and times!!frankels times arent as good as sts for example and his time wasnt impressive at the weekend!https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28518117/frankel-v-sea-the-stars?post_id=510135737#510135737yes but there are different degrees on exceptional, and the only way to judge are thru other horses and times!!frankels times arent as good as sts for example and his time wasnt impressive at the weekend!Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:04:55 -0500Why does it matter what the opposition is like if a horse's own performance is exceptional anyway? If a top class horse beats other good horses then obviously that adds a positive to the horse's overall standing but that doesn't mean if a another tophttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28518117/frankel-v-sea-the-stars?post_id=510135531#510135531Why does it matter what the opposition is like if a horse's own performance is exceptional anyway? If a top class horse beats other good horses then obviously that adds a positive to the horse's overall standing but that doesn't mean if a another topMon, 17 Oct 2011 15:01:19 -0500stakey u know i love sts and im all for a reasoned debate, im fighting his corner if only for the purpose of an intelligent and fun debate.we obviously WILL NEVER know who would win but the form of sea the stars is forever being mocked and its as goohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28518117/frankel-v-sea-the-stars?post_id=510134949#510134949stakey u know i love sts and im all for a reasoned debate, im fighting his corner if only for the purpose of an intelligent and fun debate.we obviously WILL NEVER know who would win but the form of sea the stars is forever being mocked and its as gooMon, 17 Oct 2011 14:49:51 -0500I reckon It's not easy to run a guineas below 1:36 without pacemakers, but let's see it other way round. All the horses that got beat that day GOT a pacemaker (frankel himself) and they weren't able to run below 1:38. That shows in my opinion that thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28518117/frankel-v-sea-the-stars?post_id=510134753#510134753I reckon It's not easy to run a guineas below 1:36 without pacemakers, but let's see it other way round. All the horses that got beat that day GOT a pacemaker (frankel himself) and they weren't able to run below 1:38. That shows in my opinion that thMon, 17 Oct 2011 14:46:14 -0500STS on the snaffhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28518117/frankel-v-sea-the-stars?post_id=510134267#510134267STS on the snaffMon, 17 Oct 2011 14:37:25 -0500